Mazda3/Mazdaspeed3 Engine/Drivetrain Modification Discussions for the Mazda3 and MazdaSpeed3

Performance?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:19 AM
  #61  
kalidororiginal's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41
From: SERRES
kalidororiginal is on a distinguished road
Hello brothers.I have an answer for where io can find air filter syster for 1.6 (carbon or something else)
Old Oct 11, 2007 | 04:53 PM
  #62  
J-Protege's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,332
From: Edmonton, Canada
J-Protege is on a distinguished road
I'm assuming you mean a 1.6L Civic?

j/k

Just to get some info first:
What car do you drive?
Are you looking for an air filter, or an intake system?
By carbon, you mean you want it in carbon fibre I'm assuming?
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 03:05 PM
  #63  
kalidororiginal's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41
From: SERRES
kalidororiginal is on a distinguished road
I have a Mazda3 sedan 1.6 04' model
and i want something like air intakes system...
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 03:11 PM
  #64  
J-Protege's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,332
From: Edmonton, Canada
J-Protege is on a distinguished road
Can someone confirm they made the Mazda3 with a 1.6? I didn't think they had, 2.0 and 2.3 only...

Anyways, if you're looking for an intake, PM member 'Kargoboy'. He sells Simota intakes for much less than you would spend on something like Injen. Everyone seems to love them, so that's your best bet.
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 03:21 PM
  #65  
_Kansei_'s Avatar
Tech/How-To/Northeast Mod
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,517
From: Rochester, New York
_Kansei_ is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by J-Protege
Can someone confirm they made the Mazda3 with a 1.6? I didn't think they had, 2.0 and 2.3 only...

Anyways, if you're looking for an intake, PM member 'Kargoboy'. He sells Simota intakes for much less than you would spend on something like Injen. Everyone seems to love them, so that's your best bet.
Yes, but he's not from North America...

so yes, they did --in Europe and the Philippines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MZR_engine#1.6

it's an MZR

Last edited by _Kansei_; Oct 12, 2007 at 03:23 PM.
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 03:30 PM
  #66  
J-Protege's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,332
From: Edmonton, Canada
J-Protege is on a distinguished road
Ah, cool. Will the USDM based intakes fit on that car then?
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 03:40 PM
  #67  
kalidororiginal's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41
From: SERRES
kalidororiginal is on a distinguished road
i will find something anyway...
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 04:26 PM
  #68  
dentinger's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 535
From: burlington, ON....it's west of Toronto
dentinger is on a distinguished road
if you could post a pic of ur engine bay, then i could be able to tell if it it'll fit or not.
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:39 AM
  #69  
Dingo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Dingo is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by alpha732
Again, that's what I gathered on mazda3forums. 200whp is still a pretty nice boost though, considering stock the 2.3 puts out around 125-130
The Mazda 3 2.3L auto makes 156 hp. Getting it to 200 hp would not take over $1200, IME. Starting cheap: Denso iridium plugs (+4-6hp for only $60), CAI, Magnaflow Catback exhaust, and a street legal header should give the auto at least a +50 hp for about $1000-$1400. Mazda 3 post-project whp = 206. That's how I did it anyway.

However, after driving a black 2006 Speed6 DISI Turbo with only 9k AND an owner who put in a magnaflow catback and CAI, I'm killing myself to justify trading my 3S in for it - it screams with absolutely no torque steer, and I tried but could not force any of the wheels to even get light. Dealer asking price $22,000. Can I say no?
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:29 PM
  #70  
J-Protege's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,332
From: Edmonton, Canada
J-Protege is on a distinguished road
I would need to see a dyno to agree with any of those HP gains you're claiming. 4-6hp from spark plugs is pretty far fetched imo.

i/h/e maybe make 20-30 hp max. If you have new plugs and i/h/e, you most likely run about 170-180 horsepower. Unless you have a dyno run that says otherwise.

As for the MazdaSpeed6, it sure is a quick car, and the AWD really helps control the power. Go for it if you can justify the cost!
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:19 AM
  #71  
alpha732's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 12
alpha732 is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by Dingo
The Mazda 3 2.3L auto makes 156 hp. Getting it to 200 hp would not take over $1200, IME. Starting cheap: Denso iridium plugs (+4-6hp for only $60), CAI, Magnaflow Catback exhaust, and a street legal header should give the auto at least a +50 hp for about $1000-$1400. Mazda 3 post-project whp = 206. That's how I did it anyway.

However, after driving a black 2006 Speed6 DISI Turbo with only 9k AND an owner who put in a magnaflow catback and CAI, I'm killing myself to justify trading my 3S in for it - it screams with absolutely no torque steer, and I tried but could not force any of the wheels to even get light. Dealer asking price $22,000. Can I say no?

No, it puts down 120-130 at the wheels

you're talking crank

And no, all of that won't give 50hp lulz

like 30 at most

still at 160 wheels, whereas a turbo will put you at 200-220

kbai.
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 02:13 PM
  #72  
Dingo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Dingo is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by J-Protege
I would need to see a dyno to agree with any of those HP gains you're claiming. 4-6hp from spark plugs is pretty far fetched imo.

i/h/e maybe make 20-30 hp max. If you have new plugs and i/h/e, you most likely run about 170-180 horsepower. Unless you have a dyno run that says otherwise.
Well, I registered as "Dingo" (dumb wild Australian dog) for a reason: I'm a Mazda 3/mazdaspeed enthusiast, but certainly not a tuner expert - more of an immature older guy who still likes to race, I mean drive, sporty imports that can also serve as daily drivers/commuters. So my bad for quoting hp at the "crank" and projected hp for mods based on what different techs have told me (I'm sure they are referring to added "crank" hp). And I'm sure the difference is that a car loses hp efficiency during the transfer from crank to the wheels? So, if all cars are equally efficient, the difference between crank hp and whp would be relative?

That said, I trust your opinion that the above mods would not meet my projected 50hp at the wheels. And I assume you're saying the project mods would give 20-30 hp at the wheels? So, you're projecting +20-30 hp at the wheels? (Could you estimate the added crank hp?) - the problem for me is my projections (hp/weight ratio, projected added 1/4 speed, 0-60 etc.) are based on manufacturer, reviewers, commonly cited hp numbers, which I'm sure are all crank hp, no?). Thus, unless I misunderstand, it's more helpful for me (though I'm sure not as accurate) to deal with crank hp #'s. Is the Dingo making sense?

Anyway, since a turbo kit is out of the question for my 3s (every tech, and the mazdaspeed techs have told me I'd almost have to do an engine swap to do it the way I want it (maintain durability/longevity/reliability) on the stock ford 2.3L engine.

Thanks for the corrections. (So a Mustang GT doesn't make 300hp at the wheels and a Shelby doesn't make 500hp at the wheels?)
Dingo
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 02:18 PM
  #73  
Dingo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Dingo is on a distinguished road
Exclamation Help Dingo's Stock 3s

I'll change the premise of the original post a bit.
I have an 04 3s manumatic 4 speed. No engine mods (yet). What (specify brands/dynos if available) will deliver the most whp bang for the buck? Your budget is $1600 installed.
I appreciate all informed decisions.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JORDAN
3rd gen Engine/Drivetrain
9
Mar 3, 2003 02:02 AM
Nedim38
2nd Gen Protege
1
Feb 24, 2003 12:48 PM
mazdarally94
1st Gen Protege/323/GLC
29
Feb 19, 2003 01:37 PM
KIA69
2nd gen Engine/Drivetrain
8
Nov 22, 2002 05:23 PM
silverblt
3rd gen Engine/Drivetrain
12
Jan 6, 2002 08:08 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:25 AM.