W.O.M.P. Supercharger for 2.0L proteges
February-19th-2005, 10:48 PM
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time for videos please!!!!!!
February-19th-2005, 11:32 PM
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I've got a video but I'll need to have it hosted prior to posting. I've got some pics also, but nothing fancy.
I was pleased and dissappointed all at the same time. I was dissappointed because it didn't hit the 170whp mark I had aimed for. But I was pleased that it hit REAL close. I am no tuner and with a skilled person on the haltech I could've come up with another 15-20whp. My AFR's were ridiculous. Once it hits boost you can see it get real fat and as it climbs past the VICS engagement point it takes a dump. For some reason I was unable to lean this out to make any significant difference.
I have two choices.....use this pulley and map for the "low boost / automatic" kits or make a new pulley and go from 4.5psi to 6-7psi with no map adjustments. This would add more air up top where it is already way too rich....in essence leaning it out where it should be in the first place.
I was pleased and dissappointed all at the same time. I was dissappointed because it didn't hit the 170whp mark I had aimed for. But I was pleased that it hit REAL close. I am no tuner and with a skilled person on the haltech I could've come up with another 15-20whp. My AFR's were ridiculous. Once it hits boost you can see it get real fat and as it climbs past the VICS engagement point it takes a dump. For some reason I was unable to lean this out to make any significant difference.
I have two choices.....use this pulley and map for the "low boost / automatic" kits or make a new pulley and go from 4.5psi to 6-7psi with no map adjustments. This would add more air up top where it is already way too rich....in essence leaning it out where it should be in the first place.
February-20th-2005, 12:03 AM
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February-20th-2005, 03:18 AM
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Almost to 170whp on just a 4.5+- PSI is not too shabby, plus its untuned. That's pretty cool to do on my automatic :-P I just want to have a little more zoom...zoom with out taking out a loan.
February-20th-2005, 07:57 AM
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When are you gona get it tuned? It sounded mean in that video!
February-20th-2005, 09:32 AM
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my question is.. i have been hooked on this since i read ur first post and have been reading and waiting every day.. i have a MP3 so the problem ur having with Vics i wouldnt be having.. but i am waiting on when you will be able to get it out to us so we can have as much fun as u are..
also something to think of.. would having a underdrive pulley change the overall amount of boost? i was thinking of getting a underdrive pulley but i no the rotating area doesnt change but the weight does.. wondering how much boost would change with a lighter pulley? anywayz im done hehe..
also something to think of.. would having a underdrive pulley change the overall amount of boost? i was thinking of getting a underdrive pulley but i no the rotating area doesnt change but the weight does.. wondering how much boost would change with a lighter pulley? anywayz im done hehe..
February-20th-2005, 10:33 AM
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digitalpro-- I think as it is right now will be perfect for an automatic car. It' runs WAY too rich though so I'll need to lean it out to keep it from spitting raw gas out at WOT. I'd expect the "final production version" to be about 160-170whp on 4.5psi. I'd like to get 200+whp for the 5spd.
Hughes-- I'd love to. As I've said all along I'm very new to these standalone fuel systems and my tuning knowledge is very limited. If we had had a someone familiar with Haltech at the dyno the operator says I could've gotten another 15-20whp. I believe him. running off the chart is bad...I should be staying either high 12's or low 13's across the board....I was running below 11 and 10.
Hughes-- I'd love to. As I've said all along I'm very new to these standalone fuel systems and my tuning knowledge is very limited. If we had had a someone familiar with Haltech at the dyno the operator says I could've gotten another 15-20whp. I believe him. running off the chart is bad...I should be staying either high 12's or low 13's across the board....I was running below 11 and 10.
February-20th-2005, 10:38 AM
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tdrp, the problems with UDP's is that they are made to different sizes also. That's how they achieve the "underdrive" effect. Usually they will be smaller which will turn more boost on a supercharger. I've stated from the beginning that UDP's should not be used on the WOMP. If you'd like to use one You can but you'll have to understand that I have no way of compenstaing for or knowing the dimensions of whatever pulley you pruchase. You could make more boost, less boost, etc.... you're kinda on your own if you choose to undredrive the crank.
What I'd suggest would be the UDP kit from SR motorsports that is just the alternator and water pump pulleys. This doesn't involve the crank and leaves the SC and PS alone. If you're serious about reducing your rotating mass I'd recommend the Spec 8lb flywheel. a HUGE difference over stock and will allow the engine to rev faster which allows to get into a range where the blower is making more power.
What I'd suggest would be the UDP kit from SR motorsports that is just the alternator and water pump pulleys. This doesn't involve the crank and leaves the SC and PS alone. If you're serious about reducing your rotating mass I'd recommend the Spec 8lb flywheel. a HUGE difference over stock and will allow the engine to rev faster which allows to get into a range where the blower is making more power.
February-20th-2005, 11:19 AM
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Sound like you got a lot done and that dyno sheet looks great! tourqe curve is real flat, so nowonder the tires break out when you say you "punch it". I'd love to see that tuned and get 200whp, that'd be awesome!
P.S. video didnt work for me...
P.S. video didnt work for me...
February-20th-2005, 12:44 PM
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vid doesnt work for me either. nice job matty!
February-20th-2005, 12:53 PM
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the vid works....you have to scrol down the page to where it says "free download"....click the free side and it'll ask you to wait 10seconds....after that the filename will show up and you just click it as usual.
February-20th-2005, 01:59 PM
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OOhhhhh, ok, lol, I got it to work. Thats sweet, your exhaust sounds awesome, what do you have on there, OBX headers and...? Everything looks soo good! nice work! 
Also, what was that engine shudder? just from being hard on the gas and then letting off while on the dyno...?
Also, what was that engine shudder? just from being hard on the gas and then letting off while on the dyno...?
February-20th-2005, 02:12 PM
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No, actually i did that and it says the video is corrupted. Can IBMs read these files? I tried everything, and nothing works.Can you do it in WMV?
February-20th-2005, 02:18 PM
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ok, got it to work. Holy ****** **** that mototr bounces when you let off the gas!!!!! Thing sounds ****** mean. What kind of exhasut and headers and intake maini do you got on that?
February-20th-2005, 02:23 PM
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mine said that it exceeded the free users account space for download.