2003 Msp Reverse Problems
March-18th-2003, 12:40 PM
#47
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Dallas, TX
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You don't have a TRANSMISSION
You have a TRANSAXLE
Since you said you replaced a part inside the TRANSAXLE, it is no longer stock
NOT STOCK
You have a TRANSAXLE
Since you said you replaced a part inside the TRANSAXLE, it is no longer stock
NOT STOCK
Originally posted by nickkaranikas
i have to admire your persistance
but your definition of the conventional trans. is seperate than that of the diff. anyway i dont even get your point of this
the transmission i said was stock except for an LSD
now explain the front engine rear drive diff
is that a transmission to you?
is it that hard to produce 400hp in your MR2 that you cant fathim it in a mazda 2.0
i have to admire your persistance
but your definition of the conventional trans. is seperate than that of the diff. anyway i dont even get your point of this
the transmission i said was stock except for an LSD
now explain the front engine rear drive diff
is that a transmission to you?
is it that hard to produce 400hp in your MR2 that you cant fathim it in a mazda 2.0
March-18th-2003, 12:50 PM
#48
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 708
*hears whiney little voice... "400hp really isnt alot of power"*
uhh, get a ******* clue... how many cars do you see driving around that has 400hp? 70hp is *really* not a lot of power, but 400 not a lot? HAHHAHAHAHAHA you're full of ****! The GM LS1 F-bodies dyno 290-310hp STOCK.... I don't see 400hp there
FOUR HUNDRED HORSEPOWER IS NOT NORMAL quit trying to make it sound normal by saying its not a lot of power
quit patronizing us by trying to sound like you're an expert at this ****... you in fact sound more full of **** the more you try to sound like you know something
anyways... where are the pics of your car? how did you find out you had 440hp? did you dyno it? or did you have a redneck friend jiggle a G-Tech while you were driving around?
SHOW US PICTURES AND A DYNO CHART!
uhh, get a ******* clue... how many cars do you see driving around that has 400hp? 70hp is *really* not a lot of power, but 400 not a lot? HAHHAHAHAHAHA you're full of ****! The GM LS1 F-bodies dyno 290-310hp STOCK.... I don't see 400hp there
FOUR HUNDRED HORSEPOWER IS NOT NORMAL quit trying to make it sound normal by saying its not a lot of power
quit patronizing us by trying to sound like you're an expert at this ****... you in fact sound more full of **** the more you try to sound like you know something
anyways... where are the pics of your car? how did you find out you had 440hp? did you dyno it? or did you have a redneck friend jiggle a G-Tech while you were driving around?
SHOW US PICTURES AND A DYNO CHART!
Originally posted by nickkaranikas
do you know what the differnce between a TRANSMISSION and a DIFFERENTIAL is?
second to the accountant
stock injetors are a minimum of 280 cc at 34 psi stock
320 cc at 43 psi stock regulator
add begi fmu 75 psi max
36 lb injectors at 34 psi i think you are trying to hard to disprove
you should really try and not only count on theory that has been disproven time and again
400hp really isnt alot of power
i cant beleive you guys have such a hard on
are you just envious
later
from 4 4 0 hp pro 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you know what the differnce between a TRANSMISSION and a DIFFERENTIAL is?
second to the accountant
stock injetors are a minimum of 280 cc at 34 psi stock
320 cc at 43 psi stock regulator
add begi fmu 75 psi max
36 lb injectors at 34 psi i think you are trying to hard to disprove
you should really try and not only count on theory that has been disproven time and again
400hp really isnt alot of power
i cant beleive you guys have such a hard on
are you just envious
later
from 4 4 0 hp pro 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March-18th-2003, 05:22 PM
#51
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Niagara Falls Ont.
Posts: 1,201
Originally posted by carguycw
OK, Edwin, the sarcasm level is getting kinda high, but I gotta admit... that "BS Meter" is pretty funny.
OK, Edwin, the sarcasm level is getting kinda high, but I gotta admit... that "BS Meter" is pretty funny.
March-18th-2003, 10:18 PM
#52
Half-assed sport 20
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Greenbelt, MD
Posts: 564
Originally posted by PinkMX-3
To support 440hp at the flywheel with a BSFC of .60, you're going to need four 78#/min injectors. That's alot more than what you got, unless stock FSDE injectors are suddenly 60#/min each.
To support 440hp at the flywheel with a BSFC of .60, you're going to need four 78#/min injectors. That's alot more than what you got, unless stock FSDE injectors are suddenly 60#/min each.
What calculation did you use? I'm interested to learn what injectors @ what PSI support a given horsepower.
Edwin,
Excellent diagrams. I almost fell out of my chair laughing.
Nick,
What boost are you running? 23PSI??? Also, why did you get the 57 trim and not the 50 trim? Anyway, I don't see how you can support that hp with that amount of fuel. Claiming 440hp w/o a stand alone deserves the BS flag.
to you buddy!
March-20th-2003, 02:53 PM
#57
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Location: Orange County, CA
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Wow, this has gotten way off-topic. I'm a little suprised that anyone even entertained his idea of a 440hp P5. He's obviously just making **** up.
Not that it isn't possible to make a 440hp pro, it's just that it would take a BUILT engine with very different cams, pistons, rods, valves, head, etc... to be able to handle the kind of boost you would have to be pushing. All this would, of course, require a hell of a lot more fuel too - and not just any fuel, but race fuel.
As Edwin pointed out, there are very few cars that pump 400+ hp, and all of them have much higher displacement than a pro. It is VERY difficult to make 200+ hp per liter, and impossible to do it in a reliable way. You would have to constantly be rebuilding the block, transmission, etc.... just like they do with race cars.
Not that it isn't possible to make a 440hp pro, it's just that it would take a BUILT engine with very different cams, pistons, rods, valves, head, etc... to be able to handle the kind of boost you would have to be pushing. All this would, of course, require a hell of a lot more fuel too - and not just any fuel, but race fuel.
As Edwin pointed out, there are very few cars that pump 400+ hp, and all of them have much higher displacement than a pro. It is VERY difficult to make 200+ hp per liter, and impossible to do it in a reliable way. You would have to constantly be rebuilding the block, transmission, etc.... just like they do with race cars.
March-20th-2003, 03:43 PM
#58
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actually im surprised your all still talking sht
thats fine
there is one thing i want to say tho
i should not have resorted to getting upset and for that i apoligize
but for that only
there only one way to prove anything
not anything but a real up close check on whats under the hood
you may all disagree with my facts but its there and ready to be picked apart
i am dying to attend somekind of protege meet
i am willing to bring the vehicle to one if there is a concenses amoung you all on when one might be held that some of you will attend
i hope you can accomidate my offer and there will never be any hard feelings toward any comments made
if your interested you know how to contact me
if that isnt good enuff for yoo all well then oh well
thats fine
there is one thing i want to say tho
i should not have resorted to getting upset and for that i apoligize
but for that only
there only one way to prove anything
not anything but a real up close check on whats under the hood
you may all disagree with my facts but its there and ready to be picked apart
i am dying to attend somekind of protege meet
i am willing to bring the vehicle to one if there is a concenses amoung you all on when one might be held that some of you will attend
i hope you can accomidate my offer and there will never be any hard feelings toward any comments made
if your interested you know how to contact me
if that isnt good enuff for yoo all well then oh well
March-20th-2003, 11:54 PM
#59
Half-assed sport 20
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Greenbelt, MD
Posts: 564
Originally posted by Scarmiglio
As Edwin pointed out, there are very few cars that pump 400+ hp, and all of them have much higher displacement than a pro. It is VERY difficult to make 200+ hp per liter, and impossible to do it in a reliable way. You would have to constantly be rebuilding the block, transmission, etc.... just like they do with race cars.
As Edwin pointed out, there are very few cars that pump 400+ hp, and all of them have much higher displacement than a pro. It is VERY difficult to make 200+ hp per liter, and impossible to do it in a reliable way. You would have to constantly be rebuilding the block, transmission, etc.... just like they do with race cars.
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...rue#Post356064
if the dyno pic shows you'll see 393whp on an SR20DET with NO internal modifications!
March-21st-2003, 01:51 AM
#60
Use this to install stuff
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: State College, PA
Posts: 1,069
Originally posted by nickkaranikas
actually im surprised your all still talking sht
thats fine
there is one thing i want to say tho
i should not have resorted to getting upset and for that i apoligize
but for that only
there only one way to prove anything
not anything but a real up close check on whats under the hood
you may all disagree with my facts but its there and ready to be picked apart
i am dying to attend somekind of protege meet
i am willing to bring the vehicle to one if there is a concenses amoung you all on when one might be held that some of you will attend
i hope you can accomidate my offer and there will never be any hard feelings toward any comments made
if your interested you know how to contact me
if that isnt good enuff for yoo all well then oh well
actually im surprised your all still talking sht
thats fine
there is one thing i want to say tho
i should not have resorted to getting upset and for that i apoligize
but for that only
there only one way to prove anything
not anything but a real up close check on whats under the hood
you may all disagree with my facts but its there and ready to be picked apart
i am dying to attend somekind of protege meet
i am willing to bring the vehicle to one if there is a concenses amoung you all on when one might be held that some of you will attend
i hope you can accomidate my offer and there will never be any hard feelings toward any comments made
if your interested you know how to contact me
if that isnt good enuff for yoo all well then oh well
Honestly lets be men, Did you make that up?? Did you put a turbo on your P5 and become amazed at the "sssshhhhh' sounds and extra acceleration, and apply that to a (sssshhhh sound)*(engine revs faster)=440hp equation or did you actually dyno it? I am not trying to be an *******, just trying to get you to actually truely admit what is going on...