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Old April-9th-2004, 11:42 AM
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I'm looking at $100 or so for a TB and mounting hardware.

I'm going to source up a bunch of Ford crown vic TB's...
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Old April-9th-2004, 12:57 PM
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i never stated that i wanted 'more power' from a TB, i said
2. gains are good as well as a better response from the throttle body
i had not checked corksport in a long time...SORRY. i guess we protege owners have EVERYTHING WE NEED and at a great price...except for more HP.

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Old April-9th-2004, 01:00 PM
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hhhaa, we have very little, but I appreciate the sarcasm! do we know what size Corksport is offering??
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CorkSport Power Series:

The 'Power Series' Throttle Body will be a great upgrade. Our 'Power Series' Throttle Bodies for other cars have shown to be beneficial by increase power and throttle response and an all around great upgrade in the past. The sizes can be increased 3 - 6mm (numbers to follow). Great for all models and a must have for Mazdaspeed models and cars with aftermarket turbo kits running substantial boost. $255.00
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AutoEXE Big Bore TB

Replaces the factory throttle body of 55mm to a 60mm unit. A great way for gaining power by adding more air. Also great on turbo models (Mazdaspeed Protege) or aftermarket turbo kits where flow is very important. $540.00

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Old April-9th-2004, 01:12 PM
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wow, a 60mm for ONLY $540.....damn...what would guys say to a 65mm TB assembly (with needed bracketry and adapter) for $250-300?? That's easily HALF the cost of the other unit and adds more air??

Also, I can work something out if people want theirs polished or powdercoated.
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Old April-9th-2004, 01:20 PM
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Please take note of Corksport's emphasis on "turbo"....ANY restriction in flow should be eliminated on a turbo'd engine. However any "performance parts" actual performance offered by an aftermarket company is almost always overstated. SRM claims 15-20 hp on the intake cams and 15-20 exhaust cams. You think these cams really make 30-40 hp?? Again I am basing my opinion on experience, and guess what? the throttle body on my z went from 55mm to 60 mm...NO GAIN,NO INCREASED THROTTLE RESPONSE. This was on a larger engine too. Dyno remained unchanged. However when i added a simple cone filter it jumped 7hp and 5 lb-ft of torque. If you want to buy it, I won't discourage you any longer. However if you want a suggestion as to where to invest your money next on a real gain, let me know
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LOL

so, i went out and flogged the car around for a while back and forth on the highway and i was thinking to myself, "self, what does this car need"? i came up with the following:

1. better variety of aftermarket parts-after all, variety is the spice of life.
2. better pricing on aftermarket parts-you would think that we protege owners have more $$ in our pockets than other lines of cars.
3. more things available in yellow-my personal bias
4. 5.0l/rwd swap kit-when all else fails.

this is my current setup:
Toyo Proxes T1-S 205/40/17 on Mille Miglia HT-3s
Toyo Proxes FZ-4 205/45/16 on polished aluminum stock wheels
19mm Rear Sway Bar-SR (Shane Racing) Motorsports
4-2-1 Long Tube Header-Bosal
Intake & Exhaust Camshafts-J-Spec & MazdaSpeed
Short Shifter & Shifter Bushings-Kartboy
Cat-Back Exhaust-Racing Beat
Cold Air Intake w/cone filter-Ebay Special!
Ignition Wires-SparkCo (RED)
Coil-Overs-Skunk2
Spline Drive Lug Nuts-McGard
Slotted Rotors-PowerSlot
Brake Pads-Hawk HPS

p.s. not all aftermarket parts are strictly for wheel hp gains, some are for driveability issues and handling...and what about all those appearance mods out there eh? i wouldn't buy anything that i did not deem appropriate for my particular setup.
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Old April-9th-2004, 02:14 PM
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I'm not a big fan of "cosmetic" mods.....but having said that let me remind you guys aboout my powdercoating setvice!! hahaha. My intrest in performance parts is because I believe a car that looks fast should be fast....our cars already look fast, but can't back it up. If I can help make performance parts to back up the looks of the car I'll consider my life fulfilled.

a 5mm increase is probably not going to do anything, but a 10mm or so should make pretty nice gains on top end if you have a good intake on the car. I don't see how it couldn't do anything less than sparkplug wires that people are going out and spending money on.
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what is your goal ? plan on autocrossing ? or is it for light to light ?....just curious

seriously there are some things out there you may want to consider to make your car more enjoyable and $300-$400 could get you on your way. How about a stage 1 clutch or underdrive pulleys or adjustable cam gears to take full advantage of those cams, or some machine work like a 5 angle, port and polish, or some hc pistons, or deck the head to increase compression. All i beleive would be money well spent, especially in comparison to a bigger bore TB
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Old April-9th-2004, 02:41 PM
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I don't believe a UDP is a worthy investment from my prior experiences. I just prefer removing the AC belt and then putting it back on later when I'm done racing.

My personal goals for the car are excellent street driving characteristics and weekend drag racing duty. I also like to do a lot of highway driving and the added umph of a larger TB will be more apparent for that. I agree about the other mods being good mods to have, but I'm looking at mods that I can manufacture and sell to the community for a profit. I'm trying to add a lot of value to my new website that will be opening shortly and custom products at a cheap price would do that for me. If for some reason someone was looking for a TB and saw the three side by side....which do you think they would choose?? Mine hopefully.
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drag racing, light to light, added highway performance, autoX, high speed touring, you name it, we've done it or will do it (but hey, i have several cars in the driveway to play with). i plan on keeping the protege for a while and it wouldn't hurt to get something new from time to time. i am definitely interested in getting the stage 2 cams, and probably doing hc pistons at the same time just for fun hahah! i just put a lot into my miata's suspension & handling capabilities, and we are converting the focus to a rwd/351w monster...

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i'm a girl...i should be out buying shoes or something...
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Old April-9th-2004, 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser
*heavy sigh*

i'm a girl...i should be out buying shoes or something...
dont EVER say that! my wife may hear you!
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Old April-11th-2004, 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by macdaddyslomo
the throttle body on my z went from 55mm to 60 mm...NO GAIN,NO INCREASED THROTTLE RESPONSE. This was on a larger engine too. Dyno remained unchanged. However when i added a simple cone filter it jumped 7hp and 5 lb-ft of torque.
Did you add the cone filter before or after the TB?

On my 4.0 V6 Ranger that I had (Paxton supercharged by the way), when I first started modding, I added a BBK 66mm TB as my first mod. This was up from the 55 or 60mm stock unit (i don't recall exactly), and I got nothing I could feel. I then added a larger MAF (also an idea for our car!), cone filter and intake tube, and whoa! it was a whole new truck. Exhaust came next, and that 4.0 would rev like it was a DOHC 4-banger! (well, maybe not... but close). Later, when parting it out to sell, I sold the TB before the rest of the stuff, and I definitely noticed a decrease in the ability to rev up and overall power.

I guess what I'm saying, and I'm probably preaching to the choir here, is that it's possible that the TB stands to add some power, although if there's a bottleneck before it, you've got to address that first or else it won't do any good.
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Old April-11th-2004, 10:32 PM
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about your ranger...you mentioned it's a supercharged truck....we all agree that a FI car is going to show larger gains than a NA car.

I think this is a mod that WILL show gains with a decent intake. More air is more air. Just imagine drinking a coke through a straw. One straw is .5" and the other straw is .75". Now assuming your lungs will suck in as much coke as you can feed it, which straw would you want in the bottle??
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The supercharger came way later than the rest of the mods, and had already been removed when the TB was removed and I noticed the power decrease.
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