turbo1g

Waiting for green light i see in my miror a like 2000 mustang and some thing is making wining noise i said to my friend "yo this thing got boost".So light changes and we take off,then he drives up to me and gives me look. I was doing probly 50 mph in 3rd gear so i puched and waiting when he will blow by me but hes like 2 cars behind me i got to like 120 mph,so i let off and he gets by mine side.Its a lot of lights so we just cruise then we get to straigt away and we punch again from 60 mph to 110 mph he could get me so we slow down again to take turn and we doing like 50 mph we get out of turn im in 3rd so we punch again third ends in no time i shift to 4 th ck my EGT is still ok boost shows 10psi and that monster with 4.6 l and suprercarger is behind like car then i see almost 7000 rpms i **** to 5 th we doing like 125 and i see hes is geting closer too me i ck my spedo and i see 135 and mustang next to me.I ran out of gears .I slowed down and mustang kept on going then i took my friend home and i see the same car at local 7 eleven store so i puled on the parking lot ,guy was geting some thing. When he walked out first he said that thing very fast and he asked me what i had.So what i got riped by a mustang the egine is more than 2 times biger than mine and he was runing 10 psi on the charger.I run 10 psi too on t3t4 and gtx motor which whole setup cost me around 4k and he probly paid that much for a charger.Soon my biger injectorswill go in and boost will go up hope to find him again.

Rider69

No offense, but couldn't really figure out what your post was saying. At first I thought you said you had beat the mustang, which you say had a 4.6L and a supercharger, then at the end it sounds like you are saying you got raped by the mustang. So which is it?

If you are saying you beat him, then I will call BS. I you were saying he raped you, then I believe you. A GT with SC is running a minimum 350hp, max 425hp (depends on charger and tuning and no other mods) and probably runs about a high 12 low 13 1/4mile. Now granted, I don't know much about your motor, but I would assume you have about 250hp max. Probably less. Even with the weight diff, I don't think you could run that quick. Show me a dyno or some time slips of yours so that I can be proven wrong. I would love to see a low 13 sec. Protege. Hell, I would love to have one for myself so that I could rape alot of my friends with GTs.

obender66

Ask someone to read it aloud for you

Rider69

Was this a slap at me or the original poster?

turbo1g

My post is no that i beat a mustang i posted protege vs.mustang.
Dont know my hp numbers ,best 1/4 i ran was 13.8@104 with 2.42 60 foot that is on street tires.Im working on coustum injector harnes to instal difrent injectors.Running 10 psi now and that turbo runs 55% eficient ,from 14 to 19 psi is most eficient so i will try to run around 17 psi on pump gas.I was thinking about if to post this because no one will think its posible not get blown by 20 cars but its not 130 hp car any more and has a top end.

Rider69

Well, it sounds like you have a quick little car there. Would still rather have the blown mustang over a protege though. I realize that you are from Jersey ( ) but you have to try and make your post a little clearer.

turbo1g

I rather have protege more of a sleaper and has no push rods.

optimalrage

You should take the time and do research, before opening mouth grasshopper.

All Mustang GT's and Cobra's from 96 up are overhead cams. They have no push rods. Duh!
The Ford modular motors are some of the strongest V-8's on the market today.

I also think this story is BS. Maybe the Mustang had Goodyear Gator belts. They sound like a supercharger.Maybe the Mustang was stock. Maybe the Mustang had a powerdyne supercharger(hot pieces of crap).

2000 Mustang GT has 260hp unless it is a Bullit then it has 270hp.
Ati procharger at 8psi will add 55%more power 10 psi 60% more power 12psi70% more power.
8psi= 260x55%=143hp+260hp=403hp at the crank
10psi=260x60%=156hp+260hp=416hp at the crank
12psi=260x70%=182hp+260hp=442hp at the crank
The 99 and up Mustangs have around 220hp at the wheels.
That equals a 17% drive train loss.So heres how it would go-
403hp = 334 at the wheels
416hp = 346 at the wheels
442hp = 367 at the wheels
Horsepower TV installed the Ati procharger on a GT and a Cobra a couple of years back. The GT dynoed around 350hp at the wheels and the Cobra dynoed around 440hp at the wheels.
All the superchargers(except the powerdyne) are pretty much putting out the same hp numbers.

Also a 99 and up Mustang GT with 3.73 gears, Steeda timing adjuster set at 6 degrees +pos, under drive pullys, and street drags will run mid-high13's.

I go to the track every chance I get. There was a guy running a 2001 GT with a vortech supercharger w/aftercooler, headers, full exhaust, and street tires and he was consistintly running very low12's high11's.The killer is that it was 112 degrees at the track.

Makaveli

Has this been tested or are these 'claimed' numbers like they do sometimes? They seem kinda high.......

In any case, doubt that you hung with a Mustang GT with a supercharger. Maybe it wasn't the GT, or maybe he didn't have a supercharger?

turbo1g

So i dont care if it has a ohc but too me they are junks.How good are those engines they not that eficient 2 valves per cylinder .Lets look at this again ,mustang wights around 3400 lbs and my car is around 2600 lbs.You gotmustang that revs slow too 5500 rpms and mine revs to 7000 and i got shorter gears t3t4 turbo that now is runing 10 psi with ic ,3 inch exaust and the car has top end.I got my car for over 5 years and has boost for mor than 3 years.before it had stock lx motor with home made turbo from old 323 gtx and i was runing almostsame times as some people with j spec gtx swaps and biger turbos than i had and i was runing 7psi and raced my friennd mustang gt and i got him.My engine got tired so i got gtx motor did my litle things and first time i went too track i did low 14s.My best time is till now 13.8@104 with 2.42 60 foot which is bad byt i ws on street tires abd open dif. I dont think is bad for a protge with my mods and i dont care if some teling me its imposible or some thing like that .
In my opinion domestic cars dont use the engine full potential.
260 hp from 4.6 l = to around 56 per liter and let say 1g lx gets around 70 hp per liter so mustand should have around 322 hp if engine was built lime mazda.I see we mising 62 hp.

Rider69

I agree that most domestics do not use the full potenial of the motor. But how about about 85hp/L? That would be the new Cobra with 390 hp out of a 4.6L. Sure it is 32V DOHC and blown. Runs 12.9's stock. Yeah it might be a heavy domestic. But, still, I would take it anyday over a Mazda. I love Mazda, but that is a true sports car

turbo1g

I would say is not bad 12.9 stock.Im not a domestic guy.I fix VW for living and we got VW and Dodge dealer so i see vipers at times.Did u ever see one in side that thing looks so cheap.Heater controls ***** are same like neon and window switches like caravan.Please when u selling a 50 or 60 k$ car at least finish a interior.I dont like hondas too much but civic type r has a 1.6 motor and puts 180 hp that is 112 hp/L N/A car.I know honda dont have torque but as a stock car is strong and they run forever and still gets around 30 mpg.

reythm

I would take a Corvette over a Cobra anyday, seems to be winning races more consistently.

optimalrage

Of corse they don't use the full potential of the motor.No car maker does. Mazda sure the hell doesn't,nor do honda,nissian,toyota,bmw,ferrari,chevy,ect.ect. If they did everybody would be driving 400hp 4cylinders,800-1100hp 6cylinders,1000-5000hp 8cylinders and so on. If you think you motor is so efficent why do you need a turbo? Also there would be no need for any after market performance parts manafacturers.
I owned a 99 mustang gt it redlined at 6700rpm.
I also owned a 99 dodge dakota club cab r/t with a mopar pcm,vortec supercharger it redlined at 6200 rpm and ran low 13's at the track. Not bad for a 4200lb truck.
So your motor reving to 7000 rpm is not that big of a deal.
Nascars using old pushrod tech red line at 12000rpm.


Do you even know why your motor revs so high?

funkdaddysmack

No offense to anyone in this thread, but it's awfully hard to believe someone when there haven't been any proof of his setup. No dyno plots, no timeslips, no pics of the setup? Until we see some proof, I don't think anyone will believe you turbo1g. Sorry, that's just the way it goes.

Oh yea, I'd rather have a beefy V8 over our mazda's any day. To me, there is nothing better than the sound of a V8. Sure, RX7s, etc. are hella fast, but nothing beats the sound of a V8 engine to me.

And if this guy was blown, I'd imagine that he'd have done other mods to his car before he opted for a SC. I'm not fimiliar with Mustang mods, but I think an Intake, Exhaust, Headers, Cams, and possibly gears wouldn't be a far stretch before someone lays down the cash to SC an engine. Just my thought though, who cares what I think? I don't have a turbocharged 1stgen running around, so what does it matter?