Tornado

agreed. As all religious figures I know say it comes down to faith. Which is like regular sex: either you have it or you don't.

Still while there's no proof that the Bible is science fiction there is also no proof that it's not. It was in fact a book written by humans. Also the Bible you read today is likely not the original version as Christianity used religion to control the masses of humanity for centuries. The Bible was copied and distributed countless times.

Most would agree transaltion is a fickle thing and my own personal opinion is that it was probably translated to make more sense to the people hearing it. ie uneducated peasants. Subtle word changes can have a dramatic effect on the meaning of written text.

So rather then mumble on and make even more spelling mistakes that can be used to prove my ignorance (need a spell checker in here guys) I'll finish by agreeing with the student of science disclaimer.

shackmgr6073

Aardvark: Heavy built mammal (Orycteropus afer) of Sub-Saharan forests and plains. Its stout, piglike body may be as long as 6 feet and include a 2 foot tale. It has a long snout, rabbitlike ears, short legs, and long toes with large flattened claws. It feeds at night by ripping open ant and termite nests and lapping up the insects with a long sticky tongue. Though not aggressive it uses its claws to fight off enimies. ------------------------- KINDA SOUNDS LIKE MY X!!!!

protegeboy78

Well the Old testament of bible is more of a historical book than fiction considering archeoligists agree with nearly every story contained in it, the New testament is a bunch of letters from one person to another person or group of people, so far history proves that all the places and people discussed existed.

the only thing in the bible which is really up for debate is weather God existed and Christ was God. Christ is also a historically proven figure.

midnightblue97

I'm sorry if this offends someone, but god raped Mary and got busted and tossed in the joint where satan is the warden.
Jesus is infact a bastard since Mary and god weren't wed.

Pro_fan

Which archeologists? Do you have a source we can check out?

I think there's a lot more up for debate than that.

fossil boy

You can't expect history to prove anything. In fact, you need tangible data to document history.

The mere fact that cities/towns/civilizations mentioned in the Bible were indeed real is no more convincing than fictional works which are set in actual places. Though the French Revolution occurred, this does not make "A Tale of Two Cities" a true story or even an accurate historical account, even though this literary piece does indeed present aspects of history. Or the fact that 'Planet of the Apes" is set in futuristic USA, should not imply to future generations that men in monkey suits assumed world power.

Stories such as 'The Great Flood" are unproven, and likely were an explanation for the vast marine fossil deposits encountered by early humans. Geologists may be more inclined to speak of the multitude of Floods. Or what about Jerico? Yes, quite likely there was a town of said name, but, the actual destuction may have better answers than the acoustic resonance of wind instruments.

Reality is more than just connecting a few existing places to literary prose. History is never complete - indeed it's evolving interpretations of past events.

Thus, don't you think it quite possible to think of the Bible as a bunch of hogwash, and yet still believe in God? It seems like you have linked both together, when this may not be wise. Belief in the Bible is one argument; the existence of God is quite another.

itzkcatz

They actually found Noahs Ark ontop of a mountain. And it was the exact measurements they had discussed.. The only thing that stumps me is.. if god created the earth and made humans.. Where were the dinosaurs? it said nothing about them in the bible that i recall..Correct me if im wrong ..Jon

alcoholiday

bill hicks had an awesome riff on that very subject.

anyway, those who take the bible literally have to take a step back and widen their frame of reference.

the bible is a story book, not an encyclopedia.

Pro_fan

Noah's Ark? Is this what you're talking about:
http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/s...388796,00.html

Hardly conclusive.

itzkcatz

No thats not the one but its interesting..Jon

Pro_fan

Do a search on the net for Noah's Ark being found. I can' seem to find any conclusive evidence to say that "yes, we have found THE Noah's Ark."

itzkcatz

I saw a Video on one that was found and had a bunch of evidence about it . i will ask my father tomorrow ..Jon

protegeboy78

So are you saying the israeli people (my ancestors) didn't exist and the history of us going in to captivity in persia, egypt, ect. never happened? I am not talking about the existence of God simply the stories of our history, our lineage, and laws, which if took the time to read that wich you disbelieve you would see there is more to it than simply blind religion

alcoholiday

how said that?

for my part, i believe the bible to be a combination of fact and fiction. history, legend and myth.

stories of actual events intermingled with fantasty and cautionary morality tales.

anyway, now you see why i don't get involved in these debates.

i don't believe in a one god.
i don't believe in anyone claiming to be his representative on earth.
i'm on the fence as far as any higher power.
i believe we evolved from past species.
i believe we've evolved too far and will destroy this planet and in the next re-writing of the books, god will look like a platypus.

not to say that all of that isn't or couldn't be directed by some immense power we don't understand. if it is, it's not one that micromanages.

KYREDP5

Thi bible said nothing about aardvarks, zebras, giraffes, rhinos, hippos, elephants, turkeys, caribou, moose, snail, dolphins, etc. and many many other animals, does that stump you?