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Old October-21st-2002, 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by B8 Turbo
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What brand and number is the turbocharger? What is the engine number and specs? Litre and compression ratio. The valve cover looks exactly like the BPT power plant except the inlet manifold.

Uh....I didn't see a blow-off valve and the AF sensor. This engine doesn't use a MAF sensor? I saw the air filter is at the bottom. Hmmmmm.....interesting.
It is a Garret T3 with a Garret T04E Compressor. Our normal setup is a T3 on both sides.

The engine is a Mazda 1.8, with 8.8:1 compression. Yes it is the exact same but this is the N/A motor.

The blow off valve is not on there because this is a piping jig, the bungs for the o2 sensor and the BOV, along with BAC, and boost will be going on as soon as the BOV comes in.

This particular intake pipe is made for use with a Haltech E6K system which uses a MAP sensor in place of the VAF. There will be standard intake pipes available for stock VAF's.
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Old October-21st-2002, 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by turboge

Personally I prefer to pop on the turbo to the existing motor. As long as it is in good condition you won't have any more problems with tuning it than you would on a GTX. You will however need the larger injectors.
If the motor is not built as OEM Turbo, one can't run high boost or else the internals would be fried. What boost are you runnin'?

As stock internals, I'm running a tricked up boost of 1 bar on the BPT.
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Old October-21st-2002, 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by turboge

It is a Garret T3 with a Garret T04E Compressor. Our normal setup is a T3 on both sides.
The T3/T4 is a much sought after item over here by the experienced individual. However, after the currency conversion, it would cost an arm+leg. The SR20-DET original Garret A/R 80 as written on the compressor, is more powerful than BPT VJ20 and costs around 100 bucks equiv. A fren of mine used it and it boosted to 1.6 bar!

The engine is a Mazda 1.8, with 8.8:1 compression. Yes it is the exact same but this is the N/A motor.
BPT compression is 8.2:1.

This particular intake pipe is made for use with a Haltech E6K system which uses a MAP sensor in place of the VAF. There will be standard intake pipes available for stock VAF's.
Haltech E6K also costs an arm+leg. Over here, we describe it as "cost a bomb!" Est. US$1.6 grand with installation & complete dyno tuning.
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Originally posted by turboge


No test car, same general prices. Just need the orders.
how much to turbo a 1.5L???
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Ric put down 397whp on STOCK INTERNALS. The internals for the normal BP are the SAME as the BPT, other than the compression ratio. They are just as strong physically. The NA head also flows better.
Thanx for this piece of info. With this kind of whp, is Ric running on stand alone fuel management and larger turbo? T3/T4?
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Originally posted by G2Protege


how much to turbo a 1.5L???
Around 2500-3000 like the other kits. This is for parts, you will still need engine management or a good FMU setup.
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Originally posted by B8 Turbo

Thanx for this piece of info. With this kind of whp, is Ric running on stand alone fuel management and larger turbo? T3/T4?
Yes he is running both along with larger injectors and some porting. I believe he is now running a TEC-III but previous numbers (397whp) he was running a TEC-II.

I run a haltech e6k, works just the same without the built-in ignition coils.
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Originally posted by B8 Turbo


If the motor is not built as OEM Turbo, one can't run high boost or else the internals would be fried. What boost are you runnin'?

As stock internals, I'm running a tricked up boost of 1 bar on the BPT.
I've run the BPT engine bone stock with a GT-R turbo up to 30psi without any internal problems. The only problem I ran into was the head, it's a pile of crap from the factory and restricts high rpm flow. This is why people are switching over to the N/A BP-05 series of heads. I recently put on the BP05 head with a port/polish job and port matched my intake manifold and you can SERIOUSLY feel the difference. It pulls past 7000 now.
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Originally posted by turboge


I've run the BPT engine bone stock with a GT-R turbo up to 30psi without any internal problems. The only problem I ran into was the head, it's a pile of crap from the factory and restricts high rpm flow. This is why people are switching over to the N/A BP-05 series of heads. I recently put on the BP05 head with a port/polish job and port matched my intake manifold and you can SERIOUSLY feel the difference. It pulls past 7000 now.
Im not sure about gtx head but i think gtr turbo wont flow at 30 psi.
I also got one question why u using t3t04e and not going t3t04b turbos.
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The turbo flows great at 30psi, the head and cams were restricting exhaust flow.

We use T04E because its a lot more efficient and reduces spoolup time. The T04B design is over 20 years old and lacks the technology that modern imports need.
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i gues it boost 30 psi but the turbo is not eficient at that boost .
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I speak from experience... the turbo is EFFICIENT at 30psi. Its maximum efficiency peaks out at 2.2bar which is roughly 34psi.
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I was shoping for gtx motor i also asked on prices for a gtr turbo and the turbo was over 1200$.I dont get the point to run gtr turbo at 30 psi. It flows steam hot air at tha tboost due to small ar on compresor housing and there is a lot of stress on the motor at the same time. I would rater have nice set up with t3to4b @ 15 psi that will out flow gtr turbo at any bost and put less stress on the motor.
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If we were talking about what you wanted then I wouldn't be stating the facts. I'm sorry that you don't want the GT-R turbo but some people have them. The T3/T04B setup is fine for some poeple.... it is a proven fact that the T04E is a superior design.

People work with what they have. I'd like to see your dyno charts at 15psi.
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Originally posted by blue LEDz




for some odd reason, i think that branden, the one who IS a professional, knows his **** and if you're such an expert, what's the name of YOUR shop?
I dont have shop and i do mine own work.I work for vw dealer for over 4 years.Mine car was on dyno runing t3/ihi turbo at 13 psi and i did 217 whp on mine car.Reason im posting is tha **** bether to use t04 b wheels because they eficient at lower boost and they make more power on pump gas.When u ck compresor maps on to4b and to4e turbos u can see t04b is bether for street use it will flow more at lower boost.I dont have t3t04b on mine car yet just ordered a turbo from turbonetics and i spoke to them and gave them mine idea of turbos i wanted and they recomended to4b.I think they know what they talking about.As to mine car best i ran was a 13.8 @10 psi with good take off and last run i did was a 14.1@103 @13 psi with 2.38 60 foot mark.im runing stock gtx ecu and stock injectors i dont think is that bad for the upgrades i got on the car.The time on mine car is also on street tires on 14 inch rims and exxon 93 octane gass with full interior.I will post mne dynocharts on 13 psi on the turbo i got now.got to make opictures and put it on mine website.
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