help me with my plan -audiobahn
November-14th-2002, 12:21 AM
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help me with my plan -audiobahn(vs Kenwood?)
Hey whats up, i need your guys' help, i want to put a system in my car and make it sound clean, im not looking for competition style boom boom, but would like a little base, my homie has a hook up with audiobahn stuff so im getting hooked up with what i want for a cheaper prices. I dont have a lot of money but will pay what it takes in essense. I already got a Pioneer DEHP7400MP head unit. This is what im sorta looking at, by the way, i want to stress i want a very very clean sounding system, clean as in i mean everything goes together in sense of mids highs and lows. So i was thinking of the ABC component series for 6.5s in the back and im not sure about the front. Can i fit 6.5s in the front? or 6x8s? i dont want to spend too much in the internals, most will go i figure to subs/amp. But anyways if both are component, meaning back and front, that means i got 4 tweaters to work with. I was thining two like in the side view mirrors things like everyone does, or on the front of the front doors, and maybe the back two mounted on the top of the frame just behind the pasangers in the back head or high on the back door or high up on the middle column that seperates he front and back doors. As for subs i wanted to run 2 10s. Not sure what kinda amp but i was thinking about the flame series for subs. I know that alot of people say audibahn is more showy n stuff but just tell me what you guys htink as in where i should mount tweaters, what size to go in front doors(they dont make any really good 5x7s), subs selection, amp, how much power, maybe a pioneer EQ??? sorry for the long post, PLLEAASe help. i listen to rap, trance, rock, everything but country n stuff basically.
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November-14th-2002, 01:20 AM
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I will help with what I can here......
can you put 6 1/2's up front? YES, but you will need an adapter ring for the install.....
will 6 X 8's fit up front? YES, seeing as how nearly ANY 6 X 8 is made to fit into the same space as a 5 X 7.
when you are picking out your speakers for the front...just keep in mind the mounting depth.....from the door to the window when its rolled all the way down is only 2 5/8 inches....so you only have in reality about 2 1/2 inces to work with. the rear doors are NOT a problem as the door depth is about 4 1/2 inches there.
and I happen to disagree with you about there not being any really good 5 X 7's......there are actually quite a few.
can you put 6 1/2's up front? YES, but you will need an adapter ring for the install.....
will 6 X 8's fit up front? YES, seeing as how nearly ANY 6 X 8 is made to fit into the same space as a 5 X 7.
when you are picking out your speakers for the front...just keep in mind the mounting depth.....from the door to the window when its rolled all the way down is only 2 5/8 inches....so you only have in reality about 2 1/2 inces to work with. the rear doors are NOT a problem as the door depth is about 4 1/2 inches there.
and I happen to disagree with you about there not being any really good 5 X 7's......there are actually quite a few.
November-14th-2002, 02:06 PM
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unless you plan to get multimedia, or really care about your rear passengers, you don't need rear-fill. but that's a matter of preference...
if you want components that fit (you wanna keep the 5x7 fit), jl audio makes 5x7 components (xr line). i presonally feel that round cones are better sounding than oval, but again, that's preference. altho audiobahn is a decent company, unless you are set on them, i would try different companies. but if your boy gots the hook up, then by all means...
and if u have the money/time, do the kicks with some 6.5's like blue suggested.
if you want components that fit (you wanna keep the 5x7 fit), jl audio makes 5x7 components (xr line). i presonally feel that round cones are better sounding than oval, but again, that's preference. altho audiobahn is a decent company, unless you are set on them, i would try different companies. but if your boy gots the hook up, then by all means...
and if u have the money/time, do the kicks with some 6.5's like blue suggested.
November-14th-2002, 04:20 PM
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thanks for all the advice, i wouldnt normally go with audiobahn, dont get me wrong, its just that since i got a hook up i say why not ya know? but i guess ill look into another system setup. If anything i will still get audiobahn subs or jl audio 10s. I like the idea of 6.5 components all around, or at least in the front with maybe a 2way in back. I dont really have time/money for custom kick panels so that idea is not really in the picture, but it would be cool.
I do sorta care about people in the back, but not quite as much. The reason i was thinkin about mounting tweaters up top was cuz i thought some of the highs would be killed if put all the way down there by the feet where stock speakers are located. If maybe not all the way up top (haha), then how about high on the doors? like sorta near the height of the door handles in both back and front.
what do you guys think?
I do sorta care about people in the back, but not quite as much. The reason i was thinkin about mounting tweaters up top was cuz i thought some of the highs would be killed if put all the way down there by the feet where stock speakers are located. If maybe not all the way up top (haha), then how about high on the doors? like sorta near the height of the door handles in both back and front.
what do you guys think?
November-15th-2002, 01:41 PM
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actually blue, the p5's have 5x7's up front. unless the 2003's have changed with the tweets and all?
as for rear-fill, it's the age-old argument of whether or not to put those in. many would say to get accurate imaging, you don't want rear fill. example would be concerts. all your sound comes from the front. but it's a matter of preference, as i like rear fill bc i do have passengers and i do have multimedia.
as for positioning the tweeters up high in the back, i've seen it done, altho i can't remember how it sounded. i would think the split would be somewhat irritating. having 2-ways in the doors seem to be just right, as you can still get the highs from the front.
whatever you do, if you are on a budget, my advise would be to plan it out and stick to it.
as for rear-fill, it's the age-old argument of whether or not to put those in. many would say to get accurate imaging, you don't want rear fill. example would be concerts. all your sound comes from the front. but it's a matter of preference, as i like rear fill bc i do have passengers and i do have multimedia.
as for positioning the tweeters up high in the back, i've seen it done, altho i can't remember how it sounded. i would think the split would be somewhat irritating. having 2-ways in the doors seem to be just right, as you can still get the highs from the front.
whatever you do, if you are on a budget, my advise would be to plan it out and stick to it.
November-15th-2002, 02:53 PM
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Hmm, very intresting, im not going multimedia, but i think what im gonna do is just have 2ways in the back (6.5s), and then have components in the front with the tweaters mounted high on the door towards the front, almost near the dash sorta. Also being 6.5s. Now i just gotta find an adapter plate thing.
Now, what about an EQ? like as a seperate unit? i plan on still running 2 audiobahn 10s in the back. probably will have a small amp to power the internals and obviously another amp for the subs. But the smaller amp is still in questions. Whats everyone take on that and the EQ option?
Now, what about an EQ? like as a seperate unit? i plan on still running 2 audiobahn 10s in the back. probably will have a small amp to power the internals and obviously another amp for the subs. But the smaller amp is still in questions. Whats everyone take on that and the EQ option?
November-15th-2002, 02:58 PM
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i say map out your system first. that way you have no surprises. if u've used an eq b4 and like it, go with it again. if u can live without one, that's more money for other things. write your system down, and add/eliminate the things that need to be.
as for your setup so far, 6.5's up front with the tweets in the sail panels will give you a nice sound. the 6.5's in the rear will do your passengers well too. the two 10" bahns should be nice, but make sure you get the right wiring options and match it to your amp.
try to plan out your system so that you save yourself money and headache.
as for your setup so far, 6.5's up front with the tweets in the sail panels will give you a nice sound. the 6.5's in the rear will do your passengers well too. the two 10" bahns should be nice, but make sure you get the right wiring options and match it to your amp.
try to plan out your system so that you save yourself money and headache.
November-15th-2002, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by onehawaiian
i say map out your system first. that way you have no surprises. if u've used an eq b4 and like it, go with it again. if u can live without one, that's more money for other things. write your system down, and add/eliminate the things that need to be.
as for your setup so far, 6.5's up front with the tweets in the sail panels will give you a nice sound. the 6.5's in the rear will do your passengers well too. the two 10" bahns should be nice, but make sure you get the right wiring options and match it to your amp.
try to plan out your system so that you save yourself money and headache.
i say map out your system first. that way you have no surprises. if u've used an eq b4 and like it, go with it again. if u can live without one, that's more money for other things. write your system down, and add/eliminate the things that need to be.
as for your setup so far, 6.5's up front with the tweets in the sail panels will give you a nice sound. the 6.5's in the rear will do your passengers well too. the two 10" bahns should be nice, but make sure you get the right wiring options and match it to your amp.
try to plan out your system so that you save yourself money and headache.
OT: about planning, ive already planned my cources for college for the next two years and am slowly doing the next two...woohoo! hahah
November-15th-2002, 08:45 PM
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Just out of curiousity, how much are you getting the Audiobahn subs for. I would go with some decent JL Audio's, not just b/c I have them, but they are really nice. You can find the 10w0's for pretty darn cheap and they put out a real nice sound, or spend a little more for the 10w3's. But from how it sounds I would check out the 10w0's. VEry nice subs and affordable. Sorry if this is nonsense to you if you already made up your mind.
November-16th-2002, 01:07 AM
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no no, i love JL subs, honestly, i was actually looking into them, my bro had 2 12s, W6s i believe and damn they were nice...thanks man, ill look into that..
But still, internals, ok guys, i gotta switch things up a bit. I was looking at Kenwoods eXcelon line or however you spell it and ive heard a lot of great things too. And as for the hookup i think im just gonna have him hook up the subs and do internals on my own. So now, the great debate! what do you guys think of kenwoods? I was gonna run components like i said before up front and 2-way/3-ways in the back, all being 6.5s. I was specifically looking at Kenwoods KFC-XR601 speakers for the back and the KFC-XR61p component speakers for the front. But as i was looking at comparing, they dont seem to have a very high wattage rating. And audiobahns is fairly high around 100W RMS. I think the KFC-XR601 are something like 45w RMS?? i mean i know theres more into a speaker than just RMS and theres debate about companys like upping the wattage rating. But what do you guys think about these speakers? im figuring youll all be happy cuz ill be straying away from audiobahns "walmart" quality, hahah(dont take offense, its funny man, let alone i dont dispute). So yea, whats up with kenwoods
(and again, thanks for all the input you guys have been dope)
But still, internals, ok guys, i gotta switch things up a bit. I was looking at Kenwoods eXcelon line or however you spell it and ive heard a lot of great things too. And as for the hookup i think im just gonna have him hook up the subs and do internals on my own. So now, the great debate! what do you guys think of kenwoods? I was gonna run components like i said before up front and 2-way/3-ways in the back, all being 6.5s. I was specifically looking at Kenwoods KFC-XR601 speakers for the back and the KFC-XR61p component speakers for the front. But as i was looking at comparing, they dont seem to have a very high wattage rating. And audiobahns is fairly high around 100W RMS. I think the KFC-XR601 are something like 45w RMS?? i mean i know theres more into a speaker than just RMS and theres debate about companys like upping the wattage rating. But what do you guys think about these speakers? im figuring youll all be happy cuz ill be straying away from audiobahns "walmart" quality, hahah(dont take offense, its funny man, let alone i dont dispute). So yea, whats up with kenwoods
(and again, thanks for all the input you guys have been dope)
November-16th-2002, 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by foxymazda
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sorry, i guess i had seen so many of you all with p5's running 5.25 or 6.5 components up front that i never bothered to check what they actually had
thanks for the info though
zacky, kenwood speakers are pretty good. i've heard some nice sounding setups with them. just remember, you get what you pay for. i would recommend going to a shop that has the speakers you are considerig on display, and listening to them, before you make any decisions. i have yet to hear an audiobahn setup i really thought sounded good
could have just been the install, but the subs hit pretty hard, but they sounded like ***. i expected my ****, which BTW is fucked, to sound like ****. but even with the sub firing into the cabin of the car, it sounded so nice and clean. but it sadly lost the continuity from the terminal to the voice coil
i wasn't keeping an eye on the voltage, and it was dropping too low, but i kept playing it loud, so the sub overheated and died. if it's an accessible wire, i'll solder it, like i've done in the past, but if not, i'll ship it off to PA so i won't have a sub for a few weeks. but that'll give me time to build my SPL box 6 cu ft with the main port tuned to about 57 hz, so it peaks at 60. but i'll have 3 other ports i can put on it, for daily driving. one for 25 hz, 30 hz, and 40 hz i want to do some experimenting with this box, so that i will be hitting over 155 by spring break finals
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sorry, i guess i had seen so many of you all with p5's running 5.25 or 6.5 components up front that i never bothered to check what they actually had
thanks for the info though zacky, kenwood speakers are pretty good. i've heard some nice sounding setups with them. just remember, you get what you pay for. i would recommend going to a shop that has the speakers you are considerig on display, and listening to them, before you make any decisions. i have yet to hear an audiobahn setup i really thought sounded good
could have just been the install, but the subs hit pretty hard, but they sounded like ***. i expected my ****, which BTW is fucked, to sound like ****. but even with the sub firing into the cabin of the car, it sounded so nice and clean. but it sadly lost the continuity from the terminal to the voice coil i wasn't keeping an eye on the voltage, and it was dropping too low, but i kept playing it loud, so the sub overheated and died. if it's an accessible wire, i'll solder it, like i've done in the past, but if not, i'll ship it off to PA so i won't have a sub for a few weeks. but that'll give me time to build my SPL box 6 cu ft with the main port tuned to about 57 hz, so it peaks at 60. but i'll have 3 other ports i can put on it, for daily driving. one for 25 hz, 30 hz, and 40 hz i want to do some experimenting with this box, so that i will be hitting over 155 by spring break finals
intresting, although i didnt much inderstand anything you were saying towards the end about the box and porting n stuff, dont know too muc habout that yet but surely will need to as i plan to build my own box. but thats for another thread for another time. just wanted to concentrate on internals, ill call around and see if anyone like best buy or somethign has these on display, i plan on getting them off the internet for about 15 for the components and a littleover 100 for the 2-ways in the back assuming i go with the kenwoods
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