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Old July-7th-2002, 03:48 PM
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Red face Kills for this weekend... *yawn*

New Monte Carlo SS
New Impala
New Celica GT (I.H.E.)
94 MX-6 V6 (I.H.E.)


guess im getting a lil cocky, lol.... YAWN, hehehehehe
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Old July-12th-2002, 08:10 PM
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Re: Kills for this weekend... *yawn*

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New Monte Carlo SS
New Impala
New Celica GT (I.H.E.)
94 MX-6 V6 (I.H.E.)


guess im getting a lil cocky, lol.... YAWN, hehehehehe
Cocky, yes.
Not bad kills and they arent hard to kill for most cars in the 15's. None of the cars mentioned will really put on a good show so dont be too cocky.
Oh and I bet they werent bottle fed when they ran against you either.
Nice kills nonetheless.
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Btw, Ive seen all these cars run at my local track and know what they run so dont flame me, please.
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Surprised a mustang GT yesterday getting onto the entrance ramp to the highway. Two lanes into one on a tight turn. Of course he kicked my butt once the road straighten!
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Old July-12th-2002, 08:34 PM
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Re: Re: Kills for this weekend... *yawn*

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Cocky, yes.
Not bad kills and they arent hard to kill for most cars in the 15's. None of the cars mentioned will really put on a good show so dont be too cocky.
Oh and I bet they werent bottle fed when they ran against you either.
Nice kills nonetheless.
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Btw, Ive seen all these cars run at my local track and know what they run so dont flame me, please.
Im sure with some mods and some tires i could do 15's off the bottle

on the bottle, who knows

my car's only getting faster, unfortunatly I started in the high 16's/low 17's, hard to kill low 15 sec cars in a high 16/17sec car, :/ and i doubt it'll ever do anything better than high 13's


a P5 on the bottle is like having an Automatic Accord on Nitrous, i shouldve just got a Geo Metro and sprayed that, I'd prolly be running the same times, hahahahaha


btw, my bottle pressure was low, and i did a constant pull on ever car, the Celica GT was just embarassing

I need a bottle warmer

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Old July-12th-2002, 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by unclebuz
Surprised a mustang GT yesterday getting onto the entrance ramp to the highway. Two lanes into one on a tight turn. Of course he kicked my butt once the road straighten!
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Re: Re: Re: Kills for this weekend... *yawn*

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Im sure with some mods and some tires i could do 15's off the bottle

on the bottle, who knows

my car's only getting faster, unfortunatly I started in the high 16's/low 17's, hard to kill low 15 sec cars in a high 16/17sec car, :/ and i doubt it'll ever do anything better than high 13's


a P5 on the bottle is like having an Automatic Accord on Nitrous, i shouldve just got a Geo Metro and sprayed that, I'd prolly be running the same times, hahahahaha


btw, my bottle pressure was low, and i did a constant pull on ever car, the Celica GT was just embarassing

I need a bottle warmer
Sounds pretty cool Patio. You sound pretty level headed and seem to have fun. Thats what its all about.
Im glad you didnt take my comments offensive, they werent meant to be. Heh, I was being a little cocky too.
Bottle warmer helps and Ive heard some ppl use an invertor, a household electric blanket and use that for the bottle warmer. Seems to work.
Good luck on your kills and most of all, have fun.
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Re: Re: Re: Kills for this weekend... *yawn*

Originally posted by Patio


Im sure with some mods and some tires i could do 15's off the bottle

on the bottle, who knows

my car's only getting faster, unfortunatly I started in the high 16's/low 17's, hard to kill low 15 sec cars in a high 16/17sec car, :/ and i doubt it'll ever do anything better than high 13's


a P5 on the bottle is like having an Automatic Accord on Nitrous, i shouldve just got a Geo Metro and sprayed that, I'd prolly be running the same times, hahahahaha


btw, my bottle pressure was low, and i did a constant pull on ever car, the Celica GT was just embarassing

I need a bottle warmer
You should never use a nitrous system out of it's peak range (bottle pressure) if it's too low you can lift the rings on your pistons. Not likely to happen, but it has before. I would suggest the first upgrade on your list be a bottle heater. Even if it's NOS' basic bottle heater, that's better than having low bottle pressure and not having peak performance from your investment.

Also take it to the track and see what it does. I would like to know personally. I installed two kits on two different '00 Dodge Neon automatics. Both run in the mid 15's to low 15's on a 50hp shot and 75hp repectively.

Manuel's Neon has most of the bolt-ons and a rebuilt tranny with low gears (3.50 vs 3.05 stock) and a 3000rpm stall converter. His Neon runs low 17's off the bottle with a backhalf interior (track only), Xenon body kit, "Screamin Eagle GA up front and G Racing 17" wheels in the rear. His best is 15.1@88 down at Carlsbad Raceway near San Diego on his 17's wheels (50hp@1000psi).

Nick's Neon is mostly show with alot of heavy things on the car. With the subwoofers removed and with no reat seats, spare and jack, he was only able to manage nasty 18 second ETs and pittful 2.6 60ft times. He had some install issues when I first got there, but after re-installing some of the kit and un-conformed bottle pressure (we did point the rear of the car torwads the sun..) He blasted a 15.6@86 on a 75hp shot. His only mods are crush bend 2.25 cat back exhaust with Flowmaster F-body muffler and dual tips. His engine and tranny are otherwise stock. His Neon also has a JT Autobody EVO III kit and heavy ALT 17" wheels.

Now all that doesn't sound too impressive I know, but considering stick versions of the same cars would go at least high 15's to mid 16's and be deep into the 15's (maybe high 14's) on a 50hp shot and around mid 14's on a 75hp shot.

If I remember Protege 5's are making about 110-113hp to the wheels, stick versions. So if you're at a 50hp shot with bottle pressure around 800psi, you got about a 45-49hp jump, when you should get at least 60-70hp with the same jets and a bottle heater (pressure at 900psi or higher).

So I think your 5 would run mid to low 15's on the bottle, maybe high 14's on drag radials and with a bottle heater...
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Re: Re: Re: Kills for this weekend... *yawn*

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Im sure with some mods and some tires i could do 15's off the bottle
Going from high 16s/low 17s to 15s NA is MUCH harder than you'd think. Trust me on this one.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Kills for this weekend... *yawn*

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You should never use a nitrous system out of it's peak range (bottle pressure) if it's too low you can lift the rings on your pistons. Not likely to happen, but it has before. I would suggest the first upgrade on your list be a bottle heater. Even if it's NOS' basic bottle heater, that's better than having low bottle pressure and not having peak performance from your investment.

Also take it to the track and see what it does. I would like to know personally. I installed two kits on two different '00 Dodge Neon automatics. Both run in the mid 15's to low 15's on a 50hp shot and 75hp repectively.

Manuel's Neon has most of the bolt-ons and a rebuilt tranny with low gears (3.50 vs 3.05 stock) and a 3000rpm stall converter. His Neon runs low 17's off the bottle with a backhalf interior (track only), Xenon body kit, "Screamin Eagle GA up front and G Racing 17" wheels in the rear. His best is 15.1@88 down at Carlsbad Raceway near San Diego on his 17's wheels (50hp@1000psi).

Nick's Neon is mostly show with alot of heavy things on the car. With the subwoofers removed and with no reat seats, spare and jack, he was only able to manage nasty 18 second ETs and pittful 2.6 60ft times. He had some install issues when I first got there, but after re-installing some of the kit and un-conformed bottle pressure (we did point the rear of the car torwads the sun..) He blasted a 15.6@86 on a 75hp shot. His only mods are crush bend 2.25 cat back exhaust with Flowmaster F-body muffler and dual tips. His engine and tranny are otherwise stock. His Neon also has a JT Autobody EVO III kit and heavy ALT 17" wheels.

Now all that doesn't sound too impressive I know, but considering stick versions of the same cars would go at least high 15's to mid 16's and be deep into the 15's (maybe high 14's) on a 50hp shot and around mid 14's on a 75hp shot.

If I remember Protege 5's are making about 110-113hp to the wheels, stick versions. So if you're at a 50hp shot with bottle pressure around 800psi, you got about a 45-49hp jump, when you should get at least 60-70hp with the same jets and a bottle heater (pressure at 900psi or higher).

So I think your 5 would run mid to low 15's on the bottle, maybe high 14's on drag radials and with a bottle heater...
JFYI, I ran a 15.4 with just a 50 shot, stock intake, wheel hop and all

and I'm hella sure im gonna need more than i/h/e to run 15s off the bottle
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