RZR SHRP

Sorry bro but the retail on a 2000 Acura NSX T-Targa 2D is $86K

RZR SHRP

**** even the 2001 NSX-T--V6 VTEC (3.2 Liter) is $88K

eeterp

A few points. Are you on here to flame or do you have something useful to contribute? You seem to be a little antagonistic.

Also, you wrote "You launch a stock Si at about 5000 and from there you stay in the power band (Above VTEC) through the entire race" to which I call BS. Unless you have slicks, launching an Si or basically any street car at 5K isn't a great idea.

Jealous, LOL. I'm jealous of 111 tq.

Makaveli

Do you guys have any taxes down there? In any case, RX-7 is almost half the price of an NSX and much better looking. The Jap Ferrarri doesn't even outperform the RX-7 by much if at all..... I should send you videos of the Tsukuba race where the RX-7 beats a R34, R33, Evo RS, NSX Type S and NSX Type S Zero......

In any case, the looks of an NSX are too much like the old ferrarris, and they need to refresh the look over at Acura......

Makaveli

Don't let me come out as a Honda/Acura hater, because I respect the large involvement of Honda in motorsports, and their bikes are beautiful, and really fast.......

gok

How about we stick to the cars involved in this BS kill story. Forget the J-spec cars, forget the awesome RX-7 (have you ever owned or worked on a Wankel rotary, not fun). Yes you can launch a Si at 5k. You dont dump the clutch as that will just leave you sitting at the line spinning tires. You feather the clutch until it catches and the car shoots off the line. Trust us me and this guy RZR SHRP actually own the Si so we know what it can and cant do. It is by no means a sports car, it is one of the best bang for the buck cars ever built. Sure in the end its a civic, but it is a great balance of looks, power, handling, and economy. I think RZR is more than willing to contribute accurate information about Hondas and Acuras. But when others start talking about J-spec cars and cars that had nothing to do with the post, its just natural to return-fire. From my personal experience with my wife's old car 90 Mazda Protege Lx 5sp and my 2000 Honda Civic Si, Si stock for stock will win everytime. Which is why i call bullshit on this post.

blueprotege

The FInger .Civic's are naturally fast, but when you start comparing them to a j-spec motor you need to put your tail between your legs and run like a girl. J-spec motors come with more horsepower than any si stock motor could ever put out. if you were smart enough to know that then you wouldn't be bs'ing, and your civic wouldn't look like stock ****. Stock j-spec motors come with 45 to 60 more horsepower than the normal mazda engine. So in that being said i would love to see a stock si and a stock j-spec race, because knowing what i know about cars and what all my friends have the si would get raped.
So in your previous message to blueprotege your claims are all bs. If you would have done any research before you opened your mouth you would then know the full capability of the j-spec motors.
For reference this is not blueprotege this is one of his friends that thinks your message is funny yet stupid. Next time before talking **** do your research, and be able to back your words with proof, not supposed common sense bs. The FInger

gok

obviously you can't read since in no way did i compare the USDM Si motor to any J-spec Madza motor. I said lets not even compare the two since the original poster doesn't have a J-Spec motor. J-Spec was brought into play by one of the Protege guys not the Honda guys. Why compare a USDM B16a2 to a j-spec mazda motor? If you really want to compare engines then the b16b should be compared to the j-spec engine since it is the JDM motor for civics. 195 hp. Do your research and try hooked on phonics so that when you read someone's post you'll be able to understand it better.

blueprotege

The FInger Once again you bring me here to point you wrong. The B16a2 motor is an upgrade, not stock you tard. You said in your origional message that any stock si would beat any protege stock. Well the j-spec engine is stock in many cars and considered to be stock. Therefor your message is once again wrong. The only B16a motor that is stock is in the 2000 Honda Si. Therefor in comparsion mostly likely the Honda will win. But in the previous messgaes we were talking about his j-spec vs. the Si. Both stock engines, i think hooked on phonics worked for me , i think it is about time your try it *******!Blue

gok

What the **** are you talking about? You contradicted yourself in your post saying that the B16a2 was not a stock engine, but the b16a is in the 99-00 Civic Si. Let me go look at my engine real quick........yep the b16a2 is sitting in my now stock 00 Si. And the J-spec engine in a Civic Type R is the B16b, and yes its stock so it can be classified as a stock engine as well by your standards. So your whole arguement has turned to **** yet again. Is the J-spec engine a stock motor for any US Protege? If not why are you still comparing a US honda engine to a JDM mazda engine? The J-spec version of the Si which would be the SiR-II, puts out 170hp which is a match to 170 hp familia engine you keep ragging on and on about. Plus the SiR-II is lighter than the Familia so therefore, even a JDM civic would still beat a JDM familia. Funny how you are defending the Protege to a future Protege5 owner.

Silock

From the viewpoint of a Mazda AND Honda/Acura owner, I call total BS. I have a 1999 Miata that I just ran a 10.1 in the 1/8th in, so I can drive it fairly well. I call the biggest load of BS I have ever called in my entire life on this post.

Why? Because an EK (1999-2000) Civic Si will rape a 1st gen Protege, I don't care HOW strong you THINK it is. Secondly, when asked for details about the race, you continually dodge the question. Third, you said he had a 100 shot of NOS. Now, if that were true, he could have a 40 hp motor and STILL at least be even with you. A B16A2 can't take more than 55-60 shot anyway, so a 100 shot is OUT OF THE QUESTION without a properly built block.

You just don't know what the **** you're talking about.

BTW, I'd also take an RX-7 over the NSX, but that's only because a chip, intake and exhaust and downpipe and injectors will get you basically in the 11s

EDIT: Why did I bring up the Miata? Oh yeah . . . because it could kick your ***, too.

Silock

Dude...seriously. You drive a 93 Protege, and you're ******* on Hondas? How absolutely pathetic. From a mod, no less. Why don't you contribute something constructive instead of this useless drivel that you continuously spew forth? Here's an idea: Be constructive!

gok

Hi Andrew

Silock

Hey dude

jking

Damnit you started a flame war!!!!!!!!!!!!The FInger thumbs dow