View Poll Results: Which project beater car should i get?
'92 Mazda MX3 GS
24
85.71%
'92 Honda Civic si hatchback
4
14.29%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll
which project beater car should i get...
October-28th-2002, 10:34 PM
#3
SHIFT_mystick
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Lincoln, Ne
Posts: 1,228
look for a early nighties SE-R or NX (nissan of course) you can get 'em cheap, they are strong as ****, fun as hell..... and pretty darn fast too....
i went looking for a beater, and this is what i ended up with, a 93 se-r, and i got a really nice one at that.. not really a beater
i went looking for a beater, and this is what i ended up with, a 93 se-r, and i got a really nice one at that.. not really a beater
October-28th-2002, 11:18 PM
#4
Master of All Things :{D
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: southeast texas, near houston
Posts: 4,118
if you are wanting to get a beater and then really fix it up nice...and IF you are wanting a FAST car on top of that...look into the aftermarket for all the go fast goodies for the different kinds of cars you would be considering and then get the car that has the support you would want to enable you to complete your project like you would want it.
October-28th-2002, 11:56 PM
#6
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 80
I would probably go with the Si. I don't care too much for the earlier mx-3s. You have alot more aftermarket to choose from. I have a Pro5, my wife drives a 626 but I also have a '87 accord lx-i hb I play around with.
October-29th-2002, 07:33 AM
#7
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: PA
Posts: 2,339
Yea, I'm a bastard. If you're looking to go fast, get the civic. Yes, you can put a BPT or KL-ZE into an mx-3, but the civic has TOO much of an aftermarket to ignore. There are almost unlimited different combos of engines you can throw in that thing to go fast. And you can do them on the cheap. How about a turbocharged H22 making 400hp? No problem.
October-29th-2002, 01:10 PM
#8
Protege Progasm
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MD
Posts: 2,456
Now ppl, lets be honest to ourselves. Even though this is a Mazda forum, y'all got to know that he has a better chance of making a Civic fly than a MX-3. There is way to much aftermarket stuff for the Civic. If it was my choice on all speed, I'll go for a Civic easily, but if it was a project car for shows, I would get the MX-3.
Here, maybe this will give you an idea of what you want.http://www.imagestation.com/album/?i...ulation_page=Y go to the Video and download it.
BTW, that Civic is a '92.
Here, maybe this will give you an idea of what you want.http://www.imagestation.com/album/?i...ulation_page=Y go to the Video and download it.
BTW, that Civic is a '92.
Last edited by redrims; October-29th-2002 at 01:15 PM.
October-29th-2002, 01:49 PM
#9
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: PA
Posts: 2,339
Yea, my friend has a '94 civic hatch with an integra type-r engine in it (yes, and actual type r engine), I think the engine code is like B18C or something, I don't know for sure. Anyways, I've yet to ride in it, but he says he has no problems beating most of the cars around here. He only lost to a mustang so far that had plenty of engine work done i've heard. Quick car for sure.
October-29th-2002, 02:23 PM
#11
Protege God
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,183
Originally posted by 130hp
great points guys.
in your opinion, which car do you think looks better stock?
great points guys.
in your opinion, which car do you think looks better stock?
October-29th-2002, 02:49 PM
#12
Protege Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: www.clubprotege.com
Posts: 587
Besides being good-looking (IMO), this MX-3 IS FAST!!!
http://members.attcanada.ca/~dragon64/dave.html
love his story...no sponsors and yet he challenged the best with a good ole BPT swap
:
http://members.attcanada.ca/~dragon64/dave.html
love his story...no sponsors and yet he challenged the best with a good ole BPT swap
:
October-29th-2002, 03:36 PM
#13
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 87
Originally posted by TheMAN
One of the problem with the KL-ZE is emissions.
It doesn't have an EGR system, therefore if your area has **** retentative emission testing standards, you're SOL.
One of the problem with the KL-ZE is emissions.
It doesn't have an EGR system, therefore if your area has **** retentative emission testing standards, you're SOL.
This is simply not true. My ZE was EGR ready--I actually installed all the EGR equipment onto it, but left the exhaust tube off--if I were to just use a EGR equipped intake manifold. The Millenia ZE manifold has a fitting on the back of it for an EGR, or you could use the K8DE manifold, or a KLDE manifold from a MX-6 or PGT.
Also, from the MX-3 Mailing list just this week:
From: "Mark Lourenco" <mlourenco82@s...>
Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:51 pm
Subject: My KL-ZE passed Emissions
Seeing how so many people complain about failing emissions tests, I
thought I'd share my setup:
- KL-ZE
- Mx-6 North American Intake Manifold
- KL-02 VAF (MX-6)
- K-08 ECU
- 94 octane
- 140KM on highway
This setup ran a little lean. The test was done as a 2.5L with no EGR,
also note that it was a 2-speed idle test(My bumper couldn't clear the
rollers).
Results: HC Limit 200 - Reading 18 // C0% Limit 1.00 - Reading 0.01.
Hope This helps!
Mark L.
Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:51 pm
Subject: My KL-ZE passed Emissions
Seeing how so many people complain about failing emissions tests, I
thought I'd share my setup:
- KL-ZE
- Mx-6 North American Intake Manifold
- KL-02 VAF (MX-6)
- K-08 ECU
- 94 octane
- 140KM on highway
This setup ran a little lean. The test was done as a 2.5L with no EGR,
also note that it was a 2-speed idle test(My bumper couldn't clear the
rollers).
Results: HC Limit 200 - Reading 18 // C0% Limit 1.00 - Reading 0.01.
Hope This helps!
Mark L.
Also, it's all about tuning. Jeff Abrams made much cleaner emissions with his KLDE at 9psi of intercooled SC boost *NO CAT* than with his K8DE did bone stock. How? He leaned it out, and advanced the ignition timing a good bit. You can read more about his setup on www.mazdamaniac.com .
Oh yeah, and about KLZE MX-3's...check this. Torque is cool.
October-30th-2002, 08:00 AM
#14
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: PA
Posts: 2,339
Isn't the KLZE intake manifold part of the reason it makes more power, aside from the higher compression, etc? Now, i don't live in a state with emissions tests, but what would be the point of getting a KLZE and slapping a more restrictive intake manifold on it? I mean, besides passing emmisions. Would it be THAT much of a loss to even care?
October-30th-2002, 08:34 AM
#15
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: PA
Posts: 2,339
Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
As David just said, the IM from the Millenia ZE has the EGR hookup.
And yeah, its different, with the square ports, but even with a normal PGT IM, there is still going to be a signifigant performance advantage of the KLZE over the KLDE. The powerband itself is shifted up higher, and the ZE still has more compression, bigger valves, hotter cams.....etc.
"would be the point of getting a KLZE and slapping a more restrictive intake manifold on it?"
Well, we all have catalytic converters on our cars, right? They simply hurt power, and many states dont have emissions, but most people dont take them off. Its a compromise yes....but its still worthwhile.
As David just said, the IM from the Millenia ZE has the EGR hookup.
And yeah, its different, with the square ports, but even with a normal PGT IM, there is still going to be a signifigant performance advantage of the KLZE over the KLDE. The powerband itself is shifted up higher, and the ZE still has more compression, bigger valves, hotter cams.....etc.
"would be the point of getting a KLZE and slapping a more restrictive intake manifold on it?"
Well, we all have catalytic converters on our cars, right? They simply hurt power, and many states dont have emissions, but most people dont take them off. Its a compromise yes....but its still worthwhile.
[edit]BTW, how are you liking your new car?[/edit]
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)