which project beater car should i get...
 

which project beater car do you guys think i should get and why:

'92 mazda MX3 GS
or
'92 honda civic si hatchback

mazda!!! what do you think i'd say on a mazda protege board ;)

look for a early nighties SE-R or NX (nissan of course) you can get 'em cheap, they are strong as fuck, fun as hell..... and pretty darn fast too....


i went looking for a beater, and this is what i ended up with, a 93 se-r, and i got a really nice one at that.. not really a beater

if you are wanting to get a beater and then really fix it up nice...and IF you are wanting a FAST car on top of that...look into the aftermarket for all the go fast goodies for the different kinds of cars you would be considering and then get the car that has the support you would want to enable you to complete your project like you would want it.

how much can you get them for?

with the MX-3, you could swap in the 2.5L engine (I forgot the kode).... is it KL-ZE????

I would probably go with the Si. I don't care too much for the earlier mx-3s. You have alot more aftermarket to choose from. I have a Pro5, my wife drives a 626 but I also have a '87 accord lx-i hb I play around with.

Yea, I'm a bastard. If you're looking to go fast, get the civic. Yes, you can put a BPT or KL-ZE into an mx-3, but the civic has TOO much of an aftermarket to ignore. There are almost unlimited different combos of engines you can throw in that thing to go fast. And you can do them on the cheap. How about a turbocharged H22 making 400hp? No problem.

Now ppl, lets be honest to ourselves. Even though this is a Mazda forum, y'all got to know that he has a better chance of making a Civic fly than a MX-3. There is way to much aftermarket stuff for the Civic. If it was my choice on all speed, I'll go for a Civic easily, but if it was a project car for shows, I would get the MX-3.

Here, maybe this will give you an idea of what you want.http://www.imagestation.com/album/?i...ulation_page=Y go to the Video and download it.
BTW, that Civic is a '92.

Yea, my friend has a '94 civic hatch with an integra type-r engine in it (yes, and actual type r engine), I think the engine code is like B18C or something, I don't know for sure. Anyways, I've yet to ride in it, but he says he has no problems beating most of the cars around here. He only lost to a mustang so far that had plenty of engine work done i've heard. Quick car for sure.

great points guys.

in your opinion, which car do you think looks better stock?

the mazda.....................isnt' everyone sick of looking at these civics all day long ???

Besides being good-looking (IMO), this MX-3 IS FAST!!!

http://members.attcanada.ca/~dragon64/dave.html

love his story...no sponsors and yet he challenged the best with a good ole BPT swap :D:

Debunking Myth # 8903: KLZE's won't meet emissions

This is simply not true. My ZE was EGR ready--I actually installed all the EGR equipment onto it, but left the exhaust tube off--if I were to just use a EGR equipped intake manifold. The Millenia ZE manifold has a fitting on the back of it for an EGR, or you could use the K8DE manifold, or a KLDE manifold from a MX-6 or PGT.

Also, from the MX-3 Mailing list just this week:


Also, it's all about tuning. Jeff Abrams made much cleaner emissions with his KLDE at 9psi of intercooled SC boost *NO CAT* than with his K8DE did bone stock. How? He leaned it out, and advanced the ignition timing a good bit. You can read more about his setup on www.mazdamaniac.com .

Oh yeah, and about KLZE MX-3's...check this. Torque is cool.

Isn't the KLZE intake manifold part of the reason it makes more power, aside from the higher compression, etc? Now, i don't live in a state with emissions tests, but what would be the point of getting a KLZE and slapping a more restrictive intake manifold on it? I mean, besides passing emmisions. Would it be THAT much of a loss to even care?

Thank you for the info, Jesse, I learn something new every day :nod:

[edit]BTW, how are you liking your new car?[/edit]