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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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turbo 3rd gen ,, but it's kinda odd

so I was surfing on www.msprotege.com and saw a link to this Turbo Protege from Canada.. turbo pro . But the thing is .. Why is his dyno hp curve look so weird.There is like a 30 something hp jump from 5k to 5.5k
he has 4 extra injectors on the intake pipping shooting in the intake many ...
oh well look at the pics for yourself..
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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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what the hell he has as much horsepower at 5k as a stock protege

you'll notice his torque and HP graphs cross at the same point as they should which makes it more believable

maybe his boost controller is set up to just do a max dyno run not regular driving

ahh yes maybe he didnt want to bust the tranny or clutch so he made it only kick in at high RPM

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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 01:51 AM
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perhaps hes just dumpingtoo much fuel and it finnally leans out??
Old Jul 17, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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That's exactly what he told us on club protege quebec. He wanted to be safe and went for a max hp run so he flooted the gaz to prevent any detonation on hight boost which cause that bizarre hp and torque curve down low rpm
Old Jul 19, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Well he just blew is engine today. He posted it on clubprotegequebec, he was going hight speed while ajusting the air fuel mixture at 15 psi, the engine blew and took the rad with it. 15psi on stock internal seems quite hight
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 04:12 AM
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This is why I think boosting the protege engine is a bad idea. Its too weak and NO ONE can get it managed correctly.

Everyone keeps saying "It just takes proper management"
NEWS FLASH!! NO ONE knows how to properly manage the engine. So as far as I can see, it's pretty much impossible to get big/decent hp.

Well unless you go forged everything, but you might as well get a faster car and work from there.



Honestly, I don't even think Perfwork's creation will last....


Its funny, but the only protege turbo engine to NOT blow are the 1.6ls
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by redrims
This is why I think boosting the protege engine is a bad idea. Its too weak and NO ONE can get it managed correctly.

Everyone keeps saying "It just takes proper management"
NEWS FLASH!! NO ONE knows how to properly manage the engine. So as far as I can see, it's pretty much impossible to get big/decent hp.

Well unless you go forged everything, but you might as well get a faster car and work from there.



Honestly, I don't even think Perfwork's creation will last....


Its funny, but the only protege turbo engine to NOT blow are the 1.6ls
The BPs seem to do just fine...
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Chastan


The BPs seem to do just fine...
I was reading his post and sitting hear saying , I know he is not speaking of the 1st and 2nd gens .. 1.8/1.5/1.6

the 3rd gen engines seem decent , but you have to remeber that tunning is the key to any modification(mafor) done to your car. Or you will just be buying more parts. They will hopefully figure out a system to tune those 3rd gens soon ..
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by Bruce95fmla


I was reading his post and sitting hear saying , I know he is not speaking of the 1st and 2nd gens .. 1.8/1.5/1.6
Yeah, I meant the 3rd gens only. I haven't seen one go past 1 1/2 years with a turbo. BP is the shiznit!!
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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On the other board (www.protegemp3.com) a guy by the name of perfworks is finishing up his piggyback that can control fuel and timing. It'll go for ~$700. I hear he's just finishing up the maps now, so there's one tuning answer. The HiBoost kit comes with a Haltech unit that controls fuel only, and that turbo kit goes for about $4000. Check out the Forced Induction forum there, as all of the kit makers post their regularly and you can get some info from them.

He's also working on an NA application for his piggyback (along with intake manifold, throttle body, etc) but thats a different topic.

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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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I'll see if the go over 1 1/2 years...

Perfworks creation looks promising, but I'm still a bit iffy.
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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for 800 bucks , you might as well spend the extra 200 and get a full stand alone
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