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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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Engine Related Questions for The Protege 2.0/MP5

I have a couple of questions for the Guru's here. I read the FAQ and it answer some, but not all my questions. He are some that were not answered.

A) What kind of internals do the 2.0litre engines have?
B) How hot does the motor run? Do i need to run both stock fans?
C) Do they make aftermarket rads for the 2.0litre engines?
D) Is it possible to advance or retard the timing on the car?


I'm asking all these questions because i'm considering buying the BEGI Turbo Kit.


TIA.

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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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A. Not forged
B. Not sure 200-210F?
C. I think you can get a radiator from Mazdaspeed and Tripoint.
D. No way that I know w/out an ECU change, re-program, etc..J&S knock sensor retards each cyl individually if it detects knock.

What are your specific concern's?
With no knowledge of any of the above questions the BEGI(FM Protege) kit would work fine. Unless you want to push the boost...
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Thats awesome....that helped out a lot. I considering the kit. The boost isn't the concern, its the internals.
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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Does anyone know if the BEGI PR5 they have tested had the timing advanced or retard?
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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Niether. The timing is stock.
Old Nov 18, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by TheMAN
what I mean is... stick with the stock ecu until you really boost things.... when that happens get a standalone
I recommend getting the standalone first. Get it tuned and all the drivability issues, correction factors, etc. all worked out while you are n/a. . . This way you have the bugs worked out, the car is running reliably, you are somewhat familiar with the stand alone, then add boost to the picture. . . Even if you never turbo your car, you will be able to maximize its output for every bolt-on you ever throw on the car.

Adding a turbo system and a stand alone system is two things that will required some debugging. Alot less risky if you handle the standalone first, before adding boost to your debugging problems.

Just my recommendation. . .

If all you want is a low boost turbo system, then don't spend the money on SAEMU, but is you ultimately plan to push things get the SAEMU first

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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to answer your question on if you need to run both fans, yes u do, one fan pulls cool air through the radiator and the other fan is actually designed for the compressor.
Old Nov 22, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Ill agree with Byran here. If nothing else, you'll improve gas mileage so you'll save money for the turbo kit

Also, as Braden has shown with a stock motor, you can increase power as much as ~10whp with just the full stand alone.
so who makes a good standalone unit for the pr5/es 2.0?
Old Nov 23, 2002 | 12:09 PM
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There is one that I know of.......SDSEFI(SimpleDigitalSystems) they are made in Canada. Check out SDSEFI.com........Several of my friends are running these on their VDubs.......Most of their cars are 12sec cars. LCD controller and everything. No laptop needed.
Old Nov 26, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Flyin' Miata is currently working out the issues with the stock Protege ECU and those encountered with the MP3 ECU.

They should have a pretty good solution soon. They have one solution already that works for six psi.
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SDS is not compatible with OE crank sensor systems.
SDS is not compatible with OE idle control systems.
Aren't both of these necessary?
Is this typical of standalone units ( incompatibility ) ?
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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The SDS system comes with SDS crank sensors and knock sensors, and idle control and cold idle control. Check out the site SDSEFI.com. Good info!
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Thanks for the info......
I looked it over breifly, must have missed that
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