Upgrading from factory
October-22nd-2002, 07:56 AM
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It wasn't like that a few years back For makers like ALpine but ever since ******* campanies like Sony and Pioneer statred marketing max power just about every manufacturer has started doing that to keep buisness.
October-22nd-2002, 07:59 AM
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LOC
Originally posted by Sir Nuke
I personally just finished the install you described...I kept my stock head unit....added a 5 channel amp ....all you see is the oh so undesirable stock Head Unit!!! :{D
I personally just finished the install you described...I kept my stock head unit....added a 5 channel amp ....all you see is the oh so undesirable stock Head Unit!!! :{D
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October-22nd-2002, 11:30 AM
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I used some of Navon Engineerings stuff in my car and it works great. No noise what-so-ever. I think its worht the $$$. The guy is/was a physicist and seems to know how to make some quality stuff.
I've used cheaper line conveters before (Radio Shack) with much dismay. Lots of pops, whines and other interference, along with signla attenuation.
I've used cheaper line conveters before (Radio Shack) with much dismay. Lots of pops, whines and other interference, along with signla attenuation.
October-22nd-2002, 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Big-N-Tasty
I used some of Navon Engineerings stuff in my car and it works great. No noise what-so-ever. I think its worht the $$$. The guy is/was a physicist and seems to know how to make some quality stuff.
I've used cheaper line conveters before (Radio Shack) with much dismay. Lots of pops, whines and other interference, along with signla attenuation.
I used some of Navon Engineerings stuff in my car and it works great. No noise what-so-ever. I think its worht the $$$. The guy is/was a physicist and seems to know how to make some quality stuff.
I've used cheaper line conveters before (Radio Shack) with much dismay. Lots of pops, whines and other interference, along with signla attenuation.
After all the work I'm gonna invest into this, I want the best sq I can get. Thanks for the input...
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October-22nd-2002, 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Sir Nuke
I actually NEVER saw those figures...only the RMS specs....which of course are the ones that count....didn't see the MAX numbers till I got the amp and that is what is on the cover of the box it BIG numbers....lol
I actually NEVER saw those figures...only the RMS specs....which of course are the ones that count....didn't see the MAX numbers till I got the amp and that is what is on the cover of the box it BIG numbers....lol
October-23rd-2002, 12:29 AM
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Re: LOC
Originally posted by 4 rubBeR
What brand of LOC did you end up using Sir Nuke? The only game in town here is 'Suntech' and I'm not sold on the quality. I believe the converter will be the achillies heel of the entire system for noise and I don't want to take a chance. I'm considering ordering one from David Navon, but its pricy. Anyone know of the suntech quatity or comment?
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What brand of LOC did you end up using Sir Nuke? The only game in town here is 'Suntech' and I'm not sold on the quality. I believe the converter will be the achillies heel of the entire system for noise and I don't want to take a chance. I'm considering ordering one from David Navon, but its pricy. Anyone know of the suntech quatity or comment?
~4rubBeR
NONE....I didn't use ANY LOC's.....the Alpine V-Power series amp has speaker level inputs available as well as RCA jacks...so its totally unnecessary to use LOC's....all I did was ensured I kept my main power input line for the amp seperated from my speaker wires...and I have absolutely NO alternator noise....at any volume level.
October-23rd-2002, 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by silver_p5_owner
That is funny. Where on earth are you going to find boxed Alpine amps just sitting on a shelf where you could see the BIG numbers? Usually you have to talk to a sales person and if they're quoting only Max Power numbers I'd head for the door!
That is funny. Where on earth are you going to find boxed Alpine amps just sitting on a shelf where you could see the BIG numbers? Usually you have to talk to a sales person and if they're quoting only Max Power numbers I'd head for the door!
October-23rd-2002, 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by 4 rubBeR
O.K. Navon it is! After all the work I'm gonna invest into this, I want the best sq I can get.
Thanks for the input...
~4rubBeR
O.K. Navon it is!
After all the work I'm gonna invest into this, I want the best sq I can get. Thanks for the input...
~4rubBeR
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I used the PL2 in my install.
October-23rd-2002, 06:07 PM
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Thanks!
Originally posted by DaleK
I used LOCs from AudioLink. They are also good quality (if you want an alternative to the Navone stuff. I don't know if one is better than the other or not. I have no noise that I can tell from these units in my set up.
AudioLink
I used the PL2 in my install.
I used LOCs from AudioLink. They are also good quality (if you want an alternative to the Navone stuff. I don't know if one is better than the other or not. I have no noise that I can tell from these units in my set up.
AudioLink
I used the PL2 in my install.
thanks for the link
I'm going to do a bit more research now...
November-6th-2002, 10:25 AM
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2003 P5
dont the new 2003 models have 6 speakers instead of 4?
how would you wire the system through the amp for that, or would it even be worth replacing the small speakers up front?
how would you wire the system through the amp for that, or would it even be worth replacing the small speakers up front?
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November-6th-2002, 04:54 PM
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No just tweeters in parallel off the front channels. They count it as a 6th speaker. It isn't. Its a none crossed-over componenet much like realy cheap coaxles. If seperates are considered differen speakers then I have 10 not including the subs.
November-19th-2002, 07:59 PM
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Please bear with me as I am very new to car audio upgrades. I have been reading on here about updating the factory HU with better speakers, amp and sub. I plan to follow Sir Nukes setup. Would just like to get opinions on the setup.
Amp will be the five channel Alpine. I think I would like the Infinity Kappa series speakers. No brainer for the rears 61/2. The fronts is what I am having trouble figuring out. Since I have the 2003 MP5 with the crappy tweeters up front. What would be the best course of action for dealing with these? Would it be best to go with a 6 1/2 component system? What problems would arise in swapping out the frong oval speakers for the new 6 1/2's? I don't really know what the alternative would be with the 5 channel amp. I would rather put in 5 x 7's with new tweeters as well. I'm just not sure how this would be done. Haven't totally decided on a sub yet, probably a 10inch JL in their cabinet like Sir Nukes. Sorry for all the questions, I appreciate any help. Thanks in advance
AJ
Amp will be the five channel Alpine. I think I would like the Infinity Kappa series speakers. No brainer for the rears 61/2. The fronts is what I am having trouble figuring out. Since I have the 2003 MP5 with the crappy tweeters up front. What would be the best course of action for dealing with these? Would it be best to go with a 6 1/2 component system? What problems would arise in swapping out the frong oval speakers for the new 6 1/2's? I don't really know what the alternative would be with the 5 channel amp. I would rather put in 5 x 7's with new tweeters as well. I'm just not sure how this would be done. Haven't totally decided on a sub yet, probably a 10inch JL in their cabinet like Sir Nukes. Sorry for all the questions, I appreciate any help. Thanks in advance
AJ
November-19th-2002, 11:43 PM
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Some manufactures make 5x7 componenets. JL had an XR series last year 5x7 component last year. Also a 5 1/4 or 6 1/2 componenet could be used without cutting up the door s or screwing new holes. Either 5's or 6's will need to have an adapter plate made to use them. A shop should be able to do the task for $30 or so.
November-20th-2002, 07:52 AM
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Re: well....
Originally posted by Erzengel
not that im a car audio genius, but couldnt you just cut the wire to the tweaters and leave em for looks.
i dont think that your going to get too much more out of them that you couldnt through upgrading the door speakers with 3-ways.
but i could be wrong, and probably am.
not that im a car audio genius, but couldnt you just cut the wire to the tweaters and leave em for looks.
i dont think that your going to get too much more out of them that you couldnt through upgrading the door speakers with 3-ways.
but i could be wrong, and probably am.
stop thoughing around the word 3 ways. 3 way speakers set comprises of a seperate tweeter, mid and midbass driver. NOT A POS TRIAXLE, with a mid and two different sized tweeters glued to it.
Last weekend a kid told me he was considering a four way over at best buy, I alost clocked him when i found out it was a 6x9 quad axle POS.