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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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About intercooler and CAI

In cold weater, should it be "deactivate", is there something to regulate the motor temperature or is it just no recommended.

thx for the input acidbbg!
Old Mar 25, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Re: About intercooler and CAI

Originally posted by BlackSand
In cold weater, should it be "deactivate", is there something to regulate the motor temperature or is it just no recommended.

thx for the input acidbbg!
you cannot deactivate an intercooler....

its in the intake trac .... between the source of forced induction and the motor

___ | FI |______| Intercooler |_____| ENGINE |___| Exhaust |

AIRFLOW --> --> --> --> --> -->


_____ = Intake piping

FI = Forced Induction (turbo/Supercharger)


So as you see (from my cheap *** diagram) the air comes in from the source of FI and goe sinto the intercooler so that the intake charge is cooled, and then from there it enters the engine....

you want ure intake air temps to be as cool as you can get it, that is because the cooler the air, the more dense it is, and that way more air is packed into the engine....

It doesn't have an effect on engine temps...

obviously you should allow ure engine to warm up properly before pushing it hard at all.... and i let it warm up to operating temperature before i even start to drive most of the time....

the only way to "bypass," not deactivate the intercooler, would be to basically put some bypass piping around the intercooler, and basically a valve that u open or close ureself, maybe manually, or with a switch.... which closes or opens the bypass piping.... theres no point on it, but thats all i can think of to get past an intercooler...

now if u weren't talking about the intercooler then disregard this post

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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it was!!

yes I was talking about the intercooler and thx for this appropriate answer.

I understand that we want the air as cold as possible to get more 02 in the motor. But how can it not have any effect on engine temp.

Is it so minimal that it doesn't really count or is the turbo adding a lot of heat and absolutly need that cold air to keep it to recommended temp?

And what about CAI? When outside temps gets to -30 C no sure in F (sorry), since the air taken is already very cold and we are keeping it cold into the engine, wouldn't it take more time to heat up?


Thx for your time!
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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just think of it like thisu can be driving in 10 C temperature outside..... then engine will warm upto operating temperature right....

You can drive in - 30 C and the engine will warm up to operating temperature right.... it just takes longer but it does.....

so no matter what the engine will warm upto operating temperature....

you see i look at it as... the enigne is always gonna run at a certain heat level.... this is cuz of the heat from the combustion....

From my point of view the combustion is roughly the same temperature everytime... if you have the proper cooling in your engine, the heat wont rise and the engine will stay at this temperature that the combustion gave it.... no matter how much more cooling you try to add.... unless you add a whole **** load ... like have the engine dipped in water or something ...

now if you don't have enough cooling, the heat rises, cuz it just adds up the ehat from each combustion.... cuz theres not adeqaute cooling, and that is when you get overheating....

so the intake temps being too cold don't really matter IMO.... I'm still learning alot myself, so if i'm wrong someone please correct me....

cuz no matter how cold the air is, it IS still gonna combust and create all that heat....


Also Turbos generate ALOT of heat...and the intake charge definately should be cooled....

well i'm starting to confuse myself... LOL, i dunno if what i typed made any sense....typed it as it was coming in my head anyway i hope i helped some
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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sounds good! Just wanted to clarify certain points and u did. Thx for the help. I'll see when it gets to buying what I'll do.
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