Intercooled Turbo Kit Feedback Please!
January-19th-2002, 09:22 AM
#31
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Thor,
If you're only running 7psi on a 2.0L engine why are you using the T28 turbo? The T25 is the same housing, and can supply 12psi (intercooled) to a 2.0L engine. It will spool faster, and is much more readily available so it SHOULD be considerably cheaper.
The T28 could then be an additional upgrade capable of supplying upwards of 17psi on most 2.0l engines. The T28 in some trim levels is good for well over 300hp. That would satisfy all but a handful of people and those guys should be doing custom stuff anyway.
Wouldn't this help to keep cost down and would give you more opportunities to make additional money from customers who want to upgrade further down the road?
Last question, will the parts be available individually? Like if I have several turbo's lying around (DSM guys give the T25's away) could I purchase the kit minus the turbo?
If you're only running 7psi on a 2.0L engine why are you using the T28 turbo? The T25 is the same housing, and can supply 12psi (intercooled) to a 2.0L engine. It will spool faster, and is much more readily available so it SHOULD be considerably cheaper.
The T28 could then be an additional upgrade capable of supplying upwards of 17psi on most 2.0l engines. The T28 in some trim levels is good for well over 300hp. That would satisfy all but a handful of people and those guys should be doing custom stuff anyway.
Wouldn't this help to keep cost down and would give you more opportunities to make additional money from customers who want to upgrade further down the road?
Last question, will the parts be available individually? Like if I have several turbo's lying around (DSM guys give the T25's away) could I purchase the kit minus the turbo?
January-30th-2002, 11:39 PM
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Hopefully, Thor already knows that the 2.2L engine in the first gen Probe/626 is an F2 engine. It differs in both bore spacing and deck height from the FP/FS engines in the Protégé, and very few parts interchange.
No offense, but do all of you throwing around 3K to 4K+ for the price of this kit have the money and plan to purchase a kit should it become available. The Flyin Miata kits are exceptionally well designed, and proven kits that produce substantial power gains. They also come very complete.
The kit as described so far sounds to me to be in the 2.5K range. This depends on the final parts list of course, as well as dyno testing of the kit. Does this kit retain the primary catalytic converter in it's stock location just below the exhaust manifold? This will be a key factor for many people wanting to retain emissions legality, as well as designing and getting the most out of the turbo kit. I'm interested in a reliable, complete, bolt-on turbo kit with a 30 to 40% gain in HP. Final price should be determined by reliability, ease of installation, and % of power gain IMHO. I'm more concerned with value than just final cost.
No offense, but do all of you throwing around 3K to 4K+ for the price of this kit have the money and plan to purchase a kit should it become available. The Flyin Miata kits are exceptionally well designed, and proven kits that produce substantial power gains. They also come very complete.
The kit as described so far sounds to me to be in the 2.5K range. This depends on the final parts list of course, as well as dyno testing of the kit. Does this kit retain the primary catalytic converter in it's stock location just below the exhaust manifold? This will be a key factor for many people wanting to retain emissions legality, as well as designing and getting the most out of the turbo kit. I'm interested in a reliable, complete, bolt-on turbo kit with a 30 to 40% gain in HP. Final price should be determined by reliability, ease of installation, and % of power gain IMHO. I'm more concerned with value than just final cost.
Originally posted by tony
hey THOR here is a little help the 2.0 motor is the same as the 2.2 in the ford probe gt turbo ...... so if you can see if the exhust manafold fit the head of the 2.0 then there is not much you can do , if it fits there is the turbo , manafold , ? blow of valve ? , piping and intercooler basicly almost everything you need for the set up ........this is my 2 cent , it might help someone out there with alot of money to play with
hey THOR here is a little help the 2.0 motor is the same as the 2.2 in the ford probe gt turbo ...... so if you can see if the exhust manafold fit the head of the 2.0 then there is not much you can do , if it fits there is the turbo , manafold , ? blow of valve ? , piping and intercooler basicly almost everything you need for the set up ........this is my 2 cent , it might help someone out there with alot of money to play with
January-31st-2002, 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Eric F
Hopefully, Thor already knows that the 2.2L engine in the first gen Probe/626 is an F2 engine. It differs in both bore spacing and deck height from the FP/FS engines in the Protégé, and very few parts interchange.
No offense, but do all of you throwing around 3K to 4K+ for the price of this kit have the money and plan to purchase a kit should it become available. The Flyin Miata kits are exceptionally well designed, and proven kits that produce substantial power gains. They also come very complete.
The kit as described so far sounds to me to be in the 2.5K range. This depends on the final parts list of course, as well as dyno testing of the kit. Does this kit retain the primary catalytic converter in it's stock location just below the exhaust manifold? This will be a key factor for many people wanting to retain emissions legality, as well as designing and getting the most out of the turbo kit. I'm interested in a reliable, complete, bolt-on turbo kit with a 30 to 40% gain in HP. Final price should be determined by reliability, ease of installation, and % of power gain IMHO. I'm more concerned with value than just final cost.
Hopefully, Thor already knows that the 2.2L engine in the first gen Probe/626 is an F2 engine. It differs in both bore spacing and deck height from the FP/FS engines in the Protégé, and very few parts interchange.
No offense, but do all of you throwing around 3K to 4K+ for the price of this kit have the money and plan to purchase a kit should it become available. The Flyin Miata kits are exceptionally well designed, and proven kits that produce substantial power gains. They also come very complete.
The kit as described so far sounds to me to be in the 2.5K range. This depends on the final parts list of course, as well as dyno testing of the kit. Does this kit retain the primary catalytic converter in it's stock location just below the exhaust manifold? This will be a key factor for many people wanting to retain emissions legality, as well as designing and getting the most out of the turbo kit. I'm interested in a reliable, complete, bolt-on turbo kit with a 30 to 40% gain in HP. Final price should be determined by reliability, ease of installation, and % of power gain IMHO. I'm more concerned with value than just final cost.
January-31st-2002, 10:53 AM
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I went to a show here in Texas on the 19 , in Waco and the guys and rotory performnce had the MP5 with the turbo , ( the same one overboost ) . The turbo was ready and street leagal . they might start to sale it soon , also this one guy from our club said that Mazda is working on a turbo and it should be out in 3 to 5 months ( this guy works for Mazda and he has a 3gen with MP5 lights , streering wheel , and MP3 catback exghust) 
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