Engine Rattle when Cold - 2001 ES 2L and P5
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March-20th-2002, 09:21 PM
#65
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 46
lil update...
Just came back from the dealer again today and found that all their cars on the lot have the same rattle, including the new ones. It does have to do with the VCTS and they're still working on the fix.. 18months now. They're trying to recalibrate the engines while maintaining ULEV compliance... reason its taking so long. Many things to go through. Basically the plates that open inside the intake manifold are rattling until expanded by the engines heat. This is from a Mazda Monitoring Unit, one of twenty...
Just came back from the dealer again today and found that all their cars on the lot have the same rattle, including the new ones. It does have to do with the VCTS and they're still working on the fix.. 18months now. They're trying to recalibrate the engines while maintaining ULEV compliance... reason its taking so long. Many things to go through. Basically the plates that open inside the intake manifold are rattling until expanded by the engines heat. This is from a Mazda Monitoring Unit, one of twenty...
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March-24th-2002, 03:32 PM
#69
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto. Canada
Posts: 90
Just bought a P5 for my wife (well, we will see who ends up driving it most).. picking it up Tuesday. Anyways, been reading about this 2.0l cold engine rattle stuff in a few threads here with interest. So I will be listening carefully when we pick up the car. As an aside, I drive a 97 Acura EL (the americans here will not recognize that model, but Canadians of course know it an upmarket Civic sedan with Acura badging, sold at Acura stores). Now, I have been 100% happy with my EL but for some reason when I started it today while thinking about this Protage rattle business, I decided to rev it and listen closely, and guess what... a rattle just as has neen desribed here happens about 2500 RPM. Now, my EL is 4 years old, so it may be a vibrating heat shield or whatever, but the point is I never noticed it in the years I owned the car. In any case if I hear anything when picking up the P5 I will report it the dealer service department for notification if/when a fix is available. I'm not too optimistic if this problem has been around with this engine for over 6 months or more as has been mentioned here. If it were fixable with an ECU software change I think it would have been fixed by now.
Maybe not enough people have reported the problem.. what I really don't understand is a few people who complain repeatedly in these forums that they have this problem, but admit they have not reported it to their dealer! If they are serious about wanting it fixed they should properly go on record with the dealer and not accept any answer like 'we don't hear anything'.
Maybe not enough people have reported the problem.. what I really don't understand is a few people who complain repeatedly in these forums that they have this problem, but admit they have not reported it to their dealer! If they are serious about wanting it fixed they should properly go on record with the dealer and not accept any answer like 'we don't hear anything'.
March-24th-2002, 06:21 PM
#70
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 60
I picked up my MP5 Thursday night with 7km on it. I now have over 520km, in three days! Mazda made the protege5 too much fun to drive. The point of all this is that I don't have the engine rattle.
2002 Midnight Blue 5speed
2002 Midnight Blue 5speed
March-25th-2002, 03:21 AM
#71
Super Ninja
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Goldsboro NC
Posts: 413
My MP3 has no engine rattle that I have seen I have about 6500 miles on it. If I notice one I will sure have my *** at the dealer for my FIX.
good luck to everyone who has the rattle. Probably no big deal nothing good ol Mazda cant handle.
good luck to everyone who has the rattle. Probably no big deal nothing good ol Mazda cant handle.
April-2nd-2002, 07:43 PM
#72
Protege Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 22
Originally posted by lx-2000
Has this problem been fixed in newer 2.0L protege's and protege 5's? What I mean is, can someone expect this problem if they bought a new 2002 model?
Has this problem been fixed in newer 2.0L protege's and protege 5's? What I mean is, can someone expect this problem if they bought a new 2002 model?
April-7th-2002, 09:03 PM
#73
Certified Sick Individual
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Houston, TX.
Posts: 1,141
I took mine in but the dealership was not able to fix it. They blamed it on exhaust "resonation". Anyway I called Mazda and there has not been an M-TIPS released for this yet (someone mentioned that earlier and my dealership could not find it either). They have an ETA sometime this month (BS I bet). I talked to Darrell or Darren or something at the Mazda customer care hotline so everyone give him a call and complain until they fix this.
