kcbhiw

Doh..beat me to it.


The engines are indeed Sunbelt engines that are built from from the stock engine that was received with the car. Now add the cost of spare engines into the cost of the car. NOTHING is stock with these engines. Even the intake manifold is a custom made item (on some cars).

The power would be nice, but as PseudoRealityX stated, you won't be able to get too many miles on them.

gcs118

Is the only real reason we couldn't use the engines in our street cars because they are so stressed and would need constant maintenance? Or am I missing something? Obviously we would need new engine/fuel management, but besides that what is the problem?

ZoomZoomH

I think they tear it down for rebuilds after every race....

sacrificing reliability for performance is common for race engines, since they don't expect the engine to last 150,000 miles in 1 build...

captaindan

Would it be that difficult to get to 240 hp now? The new enine turbo is pushing 170hp and they said they are coming out with 3 stages of upgrades wouldn't you think that would get cloce to the 240hp?

ZoomZoomH

the World Challenge Proteges are making 240hp NATURALLY ASPIRATED (Touring Car series bans forced induction)

I would like to see any of you to pull that off w/o any sponsorship help (or Sunbelt)

gcs118

Yeah I can afford all my own R&D and do my own labor, who needs other companies?! I just read in Car and Driver the engine itself was about $18,000. A few thousand more than what I paid for my entire car granted most stuff is custom fab.

Mashi Maro

I hear that the speed world challenge protege has gone through like three engines while the rsx is still running on the same one....how honda made the rsx engine more durable and with more hp and torque than the fs with the same 2.0 displacement blows my mind

Omron

forget the cost of the engine, the cost of everything else is gonna run ya... All the internals will have to be hardend to take the pushishment that the engine will dish out.. and the poor transmission would snap in no time hahah joking.. but ya.. I am guessing alot more has been changed besides the engine.. your probably looking at something that has more in common with a Honda Civic then the standard mazda/ford relationship lol hahha

macdaddyslomo

ummm and Tri-Point is going thru multiple engines a year...where the competition is using maybe one or two...the FS-DE cannot handle that kind of stress...you can get way more than 240 hp with out spending $14K for an engine plus install and youll need a haltech to run it, plus tranny mods

white mp3

240 hp i nothing for our motors if you can do installs yourself all yo need is about 3k and a visit to shaneracing.com, you can get pulleys, cam gears, crankshafts, clutches you name it to build the motor first withou turbo you could be at 220at the crank then you can run turbo with about 7 lbs of boost you could get close to 300 or more hp. the reason i know this is when i first bought my sedan the first place i went to was japtrix racing in lakeworth , FL this guy had a 2002 p5 running on a t3/t4 turbo on 8psi and got 213 to the wheels i drove in it and bitch pinned me to the seat.

skr33t_rac3r

there is the hiboost turbo kit that makes like 240 at the wheels easily

macdaddyslomo

someone please show me how to get 240hp out of an FS-DE on $3K without forced induction!!! please do!! I dont think its possible...flying the b.s. flag on that one

gcs118

I second that.

Mike R

FYI, most race engines have no low end power, all top end. the idle is horrible and would be a bitch to drive in traffic. Turbo is the way to go if you want over 150 streetable hp.

white mp3

macdaddyslomo please take a trip to the web site shaneracing .com, there you will find endless amounst for part that can build you a 240 hp motor easily with 3 k and still have money to buy yourself dinner.