RX-7 TT swap?
October-10th-2002, 12:05 PM
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RX-7 TT swap?
Hey guys, this wild idea came into mind today and i was wondering if anyone knows how it would work.
The RX-7 engine is a 1.3 liter and ours is a 2.0 but i think it's shaped really differently, and i know it takes a hell of a lot of weird computer and wiring crap to run that engine, but would it be possible to get one into the P5 engine bay and get it running?
The RX-7 engine is a 1.3 liter and ours is a 2.0 but i think it's shaped really differently, and i know it takes a hell of a lot of weird computer and wiring crap to run that engine, but would it be possible to get one into the P5 engine bay and get it running?
October-10th-2002, 12:34 PM
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To expand on the previous answer a little...
Mazda has never sold a front-wheel-drive rotary-powered car anywhere in the world, ever. Mazda rotaries have an oddball bellhousing bolt pattern that makes it impossible to bolt one up to a tranny that's not from another rotary car. In other words, there is no off-the-shelf tranny that will work; you will need to custom-fabricate a bellhousing, possibly the tranny input shaft, in addition to the engine mounts. You will also need a custom exhaust manifold (all off-the-shelf manifolds point towards the back of a RWD car, see above).
My opinion: Forget the idea. Wait a few months and buy an RX-8. It will cost less and you won't have to worry about putting down all that power through the front wheels.
Mazda has never sold a front-wheel-drive rotary-powered car anywhere in the world, ever. Mazda rotaries have an oddball bellhousing bolt pattern that makes it impossible to bolt one up to a tranny that's not from another rotary car. In other words, there is no off-the-shelf tranny that will work; you will need to custom-fabricate a bellhousing, possibly the tranny input shaft, in addition to the engine mounts. You will also need a custom exhaust manifold (all off-the-shelf manifolds point towards the back of a RWD car, see above).
My opinion: Forget the idea. Wait a few months and buy an RX-8. It will cost less and you won't have to worry about putting down all that power through the front wheels.
October-11th-2002, 08:07 PM
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I guess it's possible to transverse the layout to get it to work in FWD applications. you need lots of customising....
motor mounts, wiring harness, ecu just to start..
I bought a P5 for that 
motor mounts, wiring harness, ecu just to start..
Originally posted by blue LEDz
if you want an rx-7 motor, get an rx-7, and keep your protege for when the rx-7 breaks down
if you want an rx-7 motor, get an rx-7, and keep your protege for when the rx-7 breaks down
October-13th-2002, 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by 90&00 Protege
BZZZTTTT...wrong. The Luce Coupe was a FWD...powered by a 12A. Not a pretty car...but FWD none the less.
BZZZTTTT...wrong. The Luce Coupe was a FWD...powered by a 12A. Not a pretty car...but FWD none the less.
October-14th-2002, 07:10 PM
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Spoken like a true Mazda nut. I'm too lazy to pull or remember numbers like that. There is always the hope that the RX-8 will bring the rotary back to the states in some other models too. But with all the problems the rotary has with emissions compliance I doubt it.
October-14th-2002, 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by kc5zom
Spoken like a true Mazda nut. I'm too lazy to pull or remember numbers like that. There is always the hope that the RX-8 will bring the rotary back to the states in some other models too. But with all the problems the rotary has with emissions compliance I doubt it.
Spoken like a true Mazda nut. I'm too lazy to pull or remember numbers like that. There is always the hope that the RX-8 will bring the rotary back to the states in some other models too. But with all the problems the rotary has with emissions compliance I doubt it.
October-15th-2002, 10:47 AM
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Ooooh Rotary talk!
They were also found in motorcycles, snowmobiles, & aircraft.
Refresh my memory, what major auto co. looked into development of rotary engines before selling the rights to Mazda?
I don't think the guy in the original post knew it's not a piston engine.
edit..... Richard, where could I see some pics of your rx-3?
Searched and only came up with this
www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4238
Pics you inserted came up as X, but that could be cause I'm at work.
They were also found in motorcycles, snowmobiles, & aircraft.
Refresh my memory, what major auto co. looked into development of rotary engines before selling the rights to Mazda?
I don't think the guy in the original post knew it's not a piston engine.
The RX-7 engine is a 1.3 liter and ours is a 2.0 but i think it's shaped really differently
Searched and only came up with this
www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4238
Pics you inserted came up as X, but that could be cause I'm at work.
Last edited by enormiss; October-15th-2002 at 11:01 AM.
October-16th-2002, 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by enormiss
Ooooh Rotary talk!
They were also found in motorcycles, snowmobiles, & aircraft.
Refresh my memory, what major auto co. looked into development of rotary engines before selling the rights to Mazda?
I don't think the guy in the original post knew it's not a piston engine.
Ooooh Rotary talk!
They were also found in motorcycles, snowmobiles, & aircraft.
Refresh my memory, what major auto co. looked into development of rotary engines before selling the rights to Mazda?
I don't think the guy in the original post knew it's not a piston engine.
October-18th-2002, 12:29 PM
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Actually the good ole boys at GM were using the Rotary at one point as a 4 rotor version in prototype covettes. Not sure about the Vega but I know of 2 concept corvettes that used a rotary......thats what I get for having a dad that is a corvette buff.
October-18th-2002, 03:16 PM
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John you are right. My friend had a 95 rx-7 turbo charged it ran 11.5 in the quarter. His tranny went so we replaced it with the 6 speed from a miata. All we had to change was the bell housing due to different bolt pattern.
Dude that ask the question about putting a 1.3 rotary motor into a Protege 5 the answer is yes you can do it. It will cost you about 3,000 dollars and that is not saying what else you need to get or rebuild. I am looking for the site now that has a 323 rotary and a miata rotary. I just cannot find it now. I remeber the miata ran a 8.5 sec quarter mile. ZOOM ZOOM.
Also some things on the tranny but it did work.
Dude that ask the question about putting a 1.3 rotary motor into a Protege 5 the answer is yes you can do it. It will cost you about 3,000 dollars and that is not saying what else you need to get or rebuild. I am looking for the site now that has a 323 rotary and a miata rotary. I just cannot find it now. I remeber the miata ran a 8.5 sec quarter mile. ZOOM ZOOM.
Also some things on the tranny but it did work.
October-18th-2002, 03:27 PM
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Best I could find but it shows that anythings possible
http://www.monito.com/wankel/convert.html
http://www.monito.com/wankel/convert.html
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