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Old September-1st-2003, 12:04 AM
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Kartboy VRS B&M

okay so my friend got wayyyyy drunk last night and i had to drive his SubaruWRX back to his house, i go to shift it into first and find he has installed a short throw. man that thing is COOL! driving that car was so easy. So i've decided to get one for my Pro. The thing is there seems to be 2 that are very popular with Pro owners. I was wondering if anyone had an opinion one way or another on the pros or cons of the KArtboy and B&M. any help is appriciated. thanx

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Old September-1st-2003, 12:25 AM
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I have a kartboy ss and I love it. No complaints at all.

One reason to go with KB is that Tom is a protege owner and member of this club.
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really? well does Tom give discounts to members of this club? hehehe
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I have the B&M and of course love it too...the throws are about the same between the two. I happen to get my B&M before Tom started selling his....BOTH are very high quality pieces.....the main difference between the two is that the B&M is a single one piece design where as the Kartboy shifter is made like our stocker is with the bottom piece welded in place. No biggie really......it all boils down to a personal preference in my opinion...

but one thing is for absolute sure....no matter which shifter you get...get the KARTBOY BUSHINGS!!! they make a world of difference.....I got some after I had my B&M for a while an it made the shifting even better.

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I have the B&M as well and have tried both in the P5. I prefer the B&M as it sits a little higher. I found the kartBoy a little too low.

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i use kartboy on both my wrx and pro5. nuff said.
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I've been running a B & M with KartBoy bushings.....I guess it a toss up....

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Old September-6th-2003, 05:48 PM
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yeah what those guys said

if you want to make the drive to San Diego, i'll do the install for you.

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Old September-12th-2003, 07:16 PM
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Sota off topic, but while we're talking Kartboy. I put in the SS and bushings. Bushings alone make a sweet difference.

However (and here's the off-topic part), those Kartboy exhaust hangers are very nice. Hard to explain the difference they make, but it is very nice. They just seem to firm things up in a pleasing way especially running hard on a bumpy back road and in the tight turns. Cheap and easy to do.
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Old September-12th-2003, 08:50 PM
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tom are you the dealer around here? you gotta price? and are you serious about the install ?
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Are the KB's any less notchier than the B&M's?

I drove my friends spec R1 WRX with short shifter and that feels so much smoother.
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The kartboy I feel is a little notchier than the b&m that I've got. I've been running the B&M for a few months now and it's sweet. I like it. Smoot and it sits higher than the kartboy so it's not too uncomfortable.
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just wondering you say to install the b&m with the kb bushing where are the bushing and how hard is it to change them and how much and where can you buy them cuz i am gonna get me a b&m shifter off of protege5online.com or whatever if neone has pics of the both of them installed that would be cool

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You'll see the bushing when you pull the shifter out itself. They're little plastic pieces that are inserted into the shifter.
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Old September-15th-2003, 03:30 PM
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you can order the bushings from kartboy.com
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