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Old March-29th-2002, 11:30 AM
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timing retard question

i have a timing retard MSD and was wondering if anyone knows whether you could "feel" any driving difference when the timing is
retarded at 3 degrees. There is a switch key that
allows me to retard the ignition when I want to. I
have tried but the car has not changed its driving characteristics. I would like to know if you can feel something while driving so that I could verify whether this MSD is working properly or not.

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Old March-29th-2002, 01:29 PM
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I wish I new the answer to that, but I hope you are retarding the timing , when you are using the nos and not just regualar driving , I know that no matter where I moved the ignition to , the computer would put the timing back to the correct possition , almost as if to say ,"what is this jerk doing know ,, let me fix it" . So I hope in your case it is working and really retarding cause that comp is smart as hell
I would say get a timing light and then hit the retard switch and then check the timing and see if you can see the timing on -3 ,,, that is the best way to tell ... I f the switch is hit and the mark is at TDC , then you know that the comp is overriding your piggyback
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:11 PM
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timing stuff

well said Bruce.

It might be true. I am going to check the price of this this light thing. I did not wanr to spend money with that though...
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:19 PM
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Re: timing stuff

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well said Bruce.

It might be true. I am going to check the price of this this light thing. I did not wanr to spend money with that though...
you mean you don't have one , man run and get one bro , that is how you check your timing , you have to look on the side of the car where the belts are , and then cram your eyes to look like on top of one of the pulley's and you will see the ledge with the indentatioins in it ,, if you have a problem finding it ,
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:19 PM
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Re: timing stuff

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well said Bruce.

It might be true. I am going to check the price of this this light thing. I did not wanr to spend money with that though...
oh I forgot it is called a timing light
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:26 PM
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timing stuff

I guess I will.


I thought I would be able to "listen" to the engine when the timing was retarded. I saw on ebay this light thing going over 20-150 bucks... Pretty high range. Maybe some are good and some sucks, I need to know how to buy it. In the book I bought about ours mazda, they explain carefully how to check the timing. I could go over the book. But anyways, I should be able to listen to the engine everytime I retard the timing (I guess...)
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:32 PM
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Bruce I will take some pics this weekend so that you could add on your site. The car looks way better now with the new rims and tires. Also with the ignition boxes and strut bar. I need to buy another intake pipe though because I want to move the nitrous jet downstream, more closely to the filter (so that I could get more mix and avoid some cylinders getting more nitrous than others and... BUUUUUUM). Right now, I have the jet too close to the throtlle body.
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:33 PM
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na bro ,, just go to your local sears , and get one , it will be like 25.00 bucks ,,, something like that ,
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:40 PM
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man, how are you going to drive to iowa city !!!!!!! you know what, we should meet sometimes, this would be cool to have beers and talk about ours "slow" pros!!!!
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:51 PM
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man, how are you going to drive to iowa city !!!!!!! you know what, we should meet sometimes, this would be cool to have beers and talk about ours "slow" pros!!!!
man that sounds cool to me , uhh how about carlisle , hahaha,,, we will all be having plenty of bears there, lmao ,, Wil will be there and I think he is old enought to drink so , should be cool .... but man where is the middle between iowa and frigin new york ...
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:57 PM
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middle between NY/ IA

I dont know man, did you forgot I am brazilian ?

I guess is ohio?
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Old March-29th-2002, 02:58 PM
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You know I am looking into getting some quick power under my tege , in like maybe 4 months , how did your NOS install go , did you do it yourself Marcio or what
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Old March-29th-2002, 03:02 PM
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nitrous install

Bruce, believe me... I could say lots of BS and lie to you, but its pretty straight forward. It may take you some time because involves drilling (to add the cilinder) and patience to hook up the wires and find a nice place for everything (switch, solenoids under the hood, etc) But I did all by myself. It took me the whole day.

this weekend I will check for spark plug after several nitrous applications to see how things are going.
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Old March-29th-2002, 03:10 PM
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Re: nitrous install

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Bruce, believe me... I could say lots of BS and lie to you, but its pretty straight forward. It may take you some time because involves drilling (to add the cilinder) and patience to hook up the wires and find a nice place for everything (switch, solenoids under the hood, etc) But I did all by myself. It took me the whole day.

this weekend I will check for spark plug after several nitrous applications to see how things are going.
I am so scared of NOS it aint funny lol ,, a 1.8 I can afford , but not blowing a Z5 and having my baby out of commision for 2 long and can't go to work lol
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Old March-29th-2002, 03:18 PM
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there is a lot oh mithology about nitrous. I take all precautions as well. I do not have money to rebiul an engine as well. But nitrous can be tottaly safe (as it has being with me). You do not want to give a shot higher than 50. Also I would highly recomend to get a O2/fuel meter. ALWAYS run higher octane with nitrous. And avoid using for too long (say more than 15 seconds). If it was dangerous it would be available for sell. You can blow a N/A engine if you push it too hard. How many people mention that ?????
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