Rishie's FITMENT RECIPE
 

THE MATRIX: 3rd Generation Proto's

Mazda Protege5 fitment guide

215/40/17; 215/35/18
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7.0" +45 and higher
7.5" +48 and higher

205/40/17
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7.0" +42 and higher; Barely making it
7.5" +48 or higher, the +45 still worries me with this width on a 205.

Mazda Protege Sedan
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Can run 2 to 3 mm less offset than the Wagon. Appears to have a little more room under the fender. As we've got no problems with wheelguuruu's 19's at all.

BEWARE OF THE PASSENGER SIDE. IT will be the first to rub. hehe. Not as much negative adjustment on that side, even with camber bolts. Based on left hand drive. hehe.

Hope this helps everyone. Please feel free to call us as we will be stocking the real good ones, quality, appearance, weight, perfect fitment. Plus you'll get your forum/club deal and the sanctity of mind that the fitment has my blessing.

Be weary of the "local tire shop" as many have not done real time fitments prior to your consultation. Not even the manufacturers who create the fitment guide for the dealers have test fitted everything. It's based on patterns with fitments in the industry. Unfortunately, our cars veer off that line just slightly but enough to be very annoying and shitty when you just bought wheels that you were told fit only to have them rub.

We are a tuning shop and therefore specialize in certain performance oriented vehicles. Therefore do multiple fitments on the same vehicles with different wheels and so forth. We weigh them loaded and unloaded, tires and wheels. It's some good info to base your decisions on.

Thanks, Rishie

:D Please rate this thread so it goes into an archive for future searches.

;)

thanks richie.....NOW when someone asks the question...all we need to is point them to this thread! :D

Thanks, Rishie........for all you've done for me and my Protege5.


Later, Speedbump.

2002 Protege5 ***********
vivid yellow/ 5speed
17x7.5 Rota Sub-Zero Gun Metal
215/40HR17 Kumho 711 BK Ecsta
H & R Sport Springs
Bosal cat-back exhaust system
MoMo shifter/belts

Future Mods************
B & M shift kit
Autoexe carbon front spliter

Always a pleasure Paul. Shifter should be here next week.

Thanks, Rishie

Yeah I figured I might as well just do this. Plus I had nothing better to do on a Friday night considering I got home from the shop at 10:00 PM, only to work on the computer some more at home. Life's a funny thing.

so all I really have to do If I want 17s
is I have lowered my car with the eibach kit 1.5 front 1.4 rear

215/40 17 with a +45 offset and 7 inch width? that will fit right
as what it says on the recipe, please say yes so I can go and get this mod done

Yes and no. Call me and verify the wheels that you are interested in so we can be sure. Plus you might get a better deal.

rishie

When it comes to anything to do with wheels, rishie is our man! He sure has proven that! Good job, and thanks as usual Rishie.

what is the bolt pattern for the p5 5*100mm or 120?

Hehe, this just sounds funny to me. I dunno I run my Enkei RS6's with 205/40/17 Nitto's, on H&R sport springs, and my wheels have a 38mm offset. Only issue I had was when I had a couple of fat asses in the back, I would rub occasionally. I fixed that with a simple roll job of the fenders. It is very easy, and low risk to do. My friend who works for a local Mazda shop though. wsa telling me about some fool that worked for Big O tires put some 17's on his P5, and he rubs at stock height.

hey rishie thanks man!! this is awesome. Maybe include information on how different lowering options will effect the "SUPER DUPER, ONE OF A KIND, RISHIE RECIPIE" such as eibach, h&r, GC. or maybe just go by lowering heights, like "for car with 1.5in drop, 2.0 drop, 3.0 drop" or something. just an idea. but am already indeed much greatful. and i DO stil plan on gettin som rims and rubber from ya! peace!

5*114.3

Just got my new 17's on. With an Eibach Pro Kit.

38mm offset and no rubbing. Full turning radius. Go figure. :confused:

I am curious as to why you decided to try it when you were warned against that offset? Dive into a corner with 4 people in the car at 40 MPH and I bet you rub.

lol. I didn't intentionally. It was supposed to be a 40 offset. Which is alright on sedans. So we tried it and it's fine. Even with 5 people in it. I've done it with 4 people at 130 km/hour into a good 75 degree. No rub.

Actually I'm starting to wonder if they just mislabelled the offset on them.

you never know with companies now. You got any pics of the new wheels on the car?

Pretty soon I'll have some. Still waiting for WW to get off their ass and ship those body kits.

As you'll notice, underneath the MP5 fitment I've indicated some approximations for the offset required on the sedan. When comparing the given +42 offset on a 205/40/17 and subtract 3mm from that, which I've indicated, you'll arrive at +39mm offset. Being that it's only one mm I can see how it would work with that size tire. I've done the fitments on the MP5 and that's what I can vouch for. I've also done several fitments on the MP3 which is how I arrived at different offsets for the two different models.

BTW, Once you're lowered or loaded you will achieve slightly more negative camber allowing a little more room as well.

I am sure you're running a 205. Is that correct? I'm glad it doesn't rub. That's a good thing. With the addition of your offset we can now broaden the offset range.

Please include the brand/model/ and size of tire used. This info is very important as different tires have different section widths even though they read the same size. i.e. a Pirelli might work while a dunlop won't.

Thanks, Rishie

His nickname is ARD MP5. That's who you need to send a PM too.

As for the rims they are only Eagle Series 191. You won't find many of these as they have only done one production of these rims. It's a 17 X 7 width and a 38 offset. Running NK's 205/40/17. Also have the Eibach Pro kit drop. Got the rims, tires and drop for $1800CAD taxes and shipping in. So I'm not complaining about them being a lower quality tire. :D

Probably doesn't help you much. They don't even list the 191's on their site as they were such limited production. But they are C5 replicas and look sweet with a full machined face.

EDIT: Oh and about fitment. I have full turning radius and no rub with 5 people and two of my stock 15" steelies in the trunk. Thank god for progressive rear springs. lol.

I'm grateful for the "recipie", however:

I want to stay at the stock 16" rim size!

So - where's this "recipie"? What offset range? What width? 16"x7"? What about tires, seeing as how the 195/50/R16 is a tough size - what else will work with no problems? I wouldn't mind if the car had a slightly wider stance with 16's - so what offset would be my max (or minimum, is it?) to get 16's as far out in the wheel wells with NO rubbing issues?

Thanks.

Good info...

Stock wheels are 16x6" +50mm offset. That should be in the FAQ.
There aren't a lot of tires other than 195/50R16 that will fit on such a skinny rim. 205's and 215's specs usually say they're fitted for a 7" rim.
Try searching on Tirerack and see what comes up.
The new Dunlop FM901 will fit stock size, and the Toyo T1-S might come in a size that will fit (but Tirerack doesn't carry Toyo tires).

Well, that sucks for me. Looks like I'll have to buy tires, too if I want to buy rims. I don't see ANY 16"x6" rims made anywhere.

But, when searching on tirerack.com - when I choose a 16x7 rim, the recommended tire size is the same as stock: 195/50/R16 - is this possible? How can our rims, which are 6" wide, use the same tires as a 7" wide wheel??

Now I'm thoroughly confused......

hihoslva:

Most tires can be used on a range of rim sizes - in your case, the 195 (195 mm = 7.7") is wide enough to fit properly on a 7" rim (I have 15x7s with 195/50/15s on my VW), but the 205, and especially the 215, is on the wide side for a 6" rim. If the tire is too wide or too narrow for the rim, you can run into some problems with the seating of the bead I believe.

Dale.

If you can find a 16,7 with a +45 offset, then I'd run a 215/45/16. That's a sweet frikin' size and matches up very well with the stock rolling diameter.

Otherwise, 205/45/16 I guess. Then you can do a +42 and higher on the 7" width.

I'm doing this in my head so they are approximations.

Rishie

rishie,
racing hart is selling the mp3 wheels in the aftermarket. i'm assuming they are identical to the OEM wheels (17x7 with 50mm+ offset).
i'm thinking of putting a set on my p5, with 215x45x17 tires, and eibach springs (about 1.3" drop).
any idea if they'll rub?
thanks.

need the info
 

what are the width and offset of guru's 19's Iworkin on a set of racing hart C2's, every fool in az with a civic rolls 17's, and every fool with a accord rolls 18's, i gotta step it up


Scott

We had them custom done to a +47 offset by shaving the wheel pads 2mm. Giovanna did this for us so we could fit the wheels slammed without any problems.

If you have a sedan the +45 should work fine. Let us know if you want a set.

Thanks, Rishie

I got another killer fitment in 19's. The arospeed RSG-T. It's a 19,7 with a +45.

A recipe for rims on my P5
 

I'm looking at the Katana K5 or K6 or the Axis Neos in 18's what tire would work with that???

Any help would be great!

Rixx

I've got a question. If I were to put on 18x7 rims with a 45mm offset on a P5, would I rub? According to the recipe, I wouldn't. But, what kind of drop would that allow? I'm sure it wouldn't work too well with a 2" drop. Would a 1.5" drop work?

I saw a P5 with 18x7.5 (i think it was) and it was rubbing with a 1.7" drop. They were looking to roll the fenders and said that's the only way to go with 18's. I really don't want to roll the fenders.

tire size ?
 

will 215/40/18 tires fit under a 1.5" lowered p-5 with the right offset

If you use a +48 or higher and it's a Pirelli P7000ss or something without a big rim protector. I tried it with my Dunlops and a +48 and I just hit the damn rim protector. Still sucks. Gotta change my tire size. Did it cause dunlop doesn't make the 35 in the 901 and I wanted a little more cushion also.

Rishie

Could you check on the fit and price for a set of 17x7 Nakayama RSX5 Silver (not sure what offset they offer in this wheel) and also suggest tire and size to fit 2002 Pro5 lowered 2" with GC's

Thanks

I currently have 16x7s on a 38mm offset with the original tyres, (Yokohama A460s here) 195/50-16s and lowered 35mm.
It rubbed on occasion so I had the rear guards lipped (no probs at the front) and all good.

I'm going to a 17x7 now and I'm thinking I have to stick to 205/40-17s and minimum offset 40mm (42mm preferred).

Any comments Rishie? Am I on the right track?

to fit or not to fit
 

Ready to purchase ATS 2000 DTM 17x7.5 offset 45 with 215\40-17 Kumho Ecsta 712's will they fit under the H&R 1.3 drop springs or am I pushin my Luck? What is your price shipped to 16508? Thank You Rishie:)

im not sure if im reading the chart right, but will 18x7.5 with +45mm offset fit???

in case it matter the wheels are motegi mr7's.

Hey if i come by to your store can i get hooked up with some 17"s or 18"s with tires for a good price mounted on my car and possssible lowering you guys finance??????? i have little credit this is my first new car. I cant afford to pay cash for rims sucks:mad: i live in stockton and local tire shops suck ass.

Just bumping to the top where it belongs

That would be fine, but we should go through some options before you make the drive down here. I want to make sure that we have the wheels you want. As for financing, we can only offer credit card payment. I'm very sorry. Call us and let me know if you're interested.

Thanks, Rishie

Rishie,

Will ADR Battle Exe 18x7.5 with toyo 215/35/18 fit on my 2001 protege ES, lowered with eibach springs? I haven't been able to find an offset for the rim. I just bought the eibach springs but haven't gotten them in yet.

Rishie,
I'm considering buying Tenzo shu-4 17x7 with 42mm offset. Most of the wheel and tire combinations come with 205/40 17's. From reading early posts it makes me think these will rub or be very tight. I'm also considering going with Eibach springs. I have a ES sedan.
Any reply or thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated!!