Will 17x7's with a +40mm offset fit?? i dont think im understanding the way the chart is written. is it saying anything above 40mm will fit or wont

Just a little help.
 

Is it at all possible to run a 38 or 40mm offset with a lowered P5, without rubbing. This would be with a 205/40-17 tire.

The chart is simply saying...on a 17x7 wheel, the minumum offset on a P5 is +42, that is with running a 205/40/17 tire. If you want to run a 215/40/17, you have to have a +45 or larger offset. If your car is a sedan, then you could probably run a few mm less offset, probably as low as +40.

See reply to other post above. The answer is no.

Rider, thank you so much.

Really, the reason I made the chart is so I wouldn't need to answer every question. There are no exceptions to the rules and I've already taken lowering into consideration.

To make things easier and more efficient for everyone, please look for the MANUFACTURERS number and ask them for specs.

If the specs match my recipe please contact me and see if I can get you a good deal.

Thanks, Rishie

I'm heading into the office now and will play catchup for another week. yipppeeee.

We are unofficially closed as we're now getting ready for sevenstock in LA. I'll keep my eyes and ears open though.

ok, i'm going to tag along on this thread and hopefully someone can answer my question.

i'm bucking the trend and going smaller, b/c i want some rims to autoX with. i found a set of 15x6.5" '88 RX-7 rims w/ 205/60R15 tires. as best as i can tell, the offset is btw 38-42mm. in the end i want to fit a set of 205/50R15 Victoracers.

since the overall autoX tires diameter is going to be smaller than stock, i have hunch it will work, but just looking for advice from those who know more than me.

any info would be appreciated.

thanks

mike

EDIT: screw those nissan rims, i found cheaper RX-7 rims. added offset info. Rishie, thanks for the response, i know you're busy.

what I need to know are four things for every one of these questions:

1. What's the diameter? got that
2. What's the width?
3. What's the offset?
4. What tire size are you planning on running?

Thanks, Rishie

All that info is on the back of the wheel. Clean it and you should find a stamping.

Guys, I know I've been flaking. Some of it due to politics but mostly due to back to back shows and conventions.

We will be closed unofficially until Monday to finish with a show coming up. At that time I will go way far back and start answering everything.

I'm so sorry for the inconvenience. A lot of these are time consuming as they require phone calls. Please bare with me and save yourself a potential mistake. Patience is a virtue.

Thanks and take care,

Rishie

Rishie, thanks for letting us know you will be out of pocket for a bit.....and don't sweat the other stuff...we know you are a very busy guy with a business to run.

Rishi .. Any updates on the new Rota rims (Attack, Battle) and fitments for the Protege5?
I'm looking for a 16x7 and a 15x7 or 6.5 (one set for summer tires and one set for autocross with r-compounds next season).

I am worried the GramLights fitment for the DC-5 Integra will have the wrong center bore although it is otherwise perfect .. so that might take care of the 16-inches. Rays doesn't list center bores for their wheels unless I missed something.

The rota website is so crap (and most shops don't really have up to date product information either) ... anyone know who works on it? Are they interested in setting up something better?

Hello,

I finalized everything with Cosmic and am doing a little poll to analyze the market to know what colors and such to order.

The attack will be on the next round if money provides.

thanks, Rishie

Which is the better fit for MP3:

GramLights 16x7 +46
or
GramLights 16x8 +45

Tires would be 225/50/15 r-compounds.

I think I read a guideline somewhere .. if you add an inch of width, then take off 5 mm of offset to keep the spacing like stock? *shrug*

hey rishie...can you post a picture on that wheel...what size and off set do you have on your black one @ your shop!!!

thanx man.

ive heard that the motegi mr7 wouldnt fit our car without modding i have a 2000 protege lx want to get 17x7 running 205/40/17 +40mm offset will this work?

FYI, as shown in the recipe the sedan has more offset room than the wagon. My recommended limits are a +42 offset.

I will post a pic of the Volk wheel right here: 18,7.5 +48 offset

http://rayswheels.co.jp/datas/VOLK/09_LE37T/15.JPG

mr7
 

hey foxy im running 17's on my 92 323 hatch. They are the omni concepts N-7's (same thing as the MR7's) the reason for the different kind is simply that they ran out of the MR7's and my car was going to be comming out of the shop that week and i didnt want to put my steelies on with the kit so i got them at a great price 1,100 and change.. Wraped in khumo supra tires.
The turning in them is awsome, so much better of a feal for the road. ive sceen a 323 on 18's and lowered... i dont know how he did it.. but i think you couldprobibly lower your car about an inch-inch and a half with out any rub.. i was going to lower mine but the kit makes it only 5 inches in the front now... wouldent be able to make it up my drive way..
they didn not have a problem at all fitting these rims on my car they matched up perfect if you wana check out my car with those rims on its here .... i think they look hott http://www.cardomain.com/id/highbody
the car with the 18's and lowered is here http://www.cardomain.com/id/norway24
hope this helps out

i see this chart below can someone anybody tell me so that a 3rd gen pro sedan can run 17's on 205/40/17 with a 40mm offset with no rubbing right? since the p5 lowest offset is 42 so the sedan can go at max 2- 3mm offset below that right which puts the pro sedan at +40mm offset b/c i see alot of ppl here with 17's
on there pro sedan and i know axis se7ens and motegi mr7 have 40mm offset in 17's thanks

THE MATRIX: 3rd Generation Proto's

Mazda Protege5 fitment guide

215/40/17; 215/35/18
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7.0" +45 and higher
7.5" +48 and higher

205/40/17
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7.0" +42 and higher; Barely making it
7.5" +48 or higher, the +45 still worries me with this width on a 205.

Mazda Protege Sedan
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Can run 2 to 3 mm less offset than the Wagon. Appears to have a little more room under the fender. As we've got no problems with wheelguuruu's 19's at all.

I have been looking for Rims, but didn't know what size I could get away with...Thanks Rishie!

I am running Enieki RSF-2's 17x7 with 40 mm and 215/40/7 and there is no rub slammed 2.5 inches. FYI
life is good....
Although Kumho tires suck... my dunlops were wayyyy grippier. almost like 10 mph grippier on the turns.
oh well.
PEACE

another oddball question
 

What's the correct offset for a 8" wide rim? (probably but not necessarily 17")

If it is 17" .. will 235/40/17's even fit (it's a better match by od than 225/45) for the MP3.

rjakobs,

I'd say the highest offset you should run on an 8" wide wheel is a +45. I will be seeing if the +50 offset will work in the next week or so. Now with regards to the right offset on stock fenders, there is none. Not in the rear at least. No matter what you will most likely rub with 8" wide wheels. Keep in mind that if you were to try and take measurements for yourself on the vehicle you must account for an extra inch and a half of width. Because an 8" wheel is never 8" from outer rim lip to lip.

Also on a FWD car you'd really only want to run wider up front and not in the rear. This is why I will be running 17's next year with 225/35/17 and 215/40/17. I found a tire that is made in those two sizes. THe 215 will go in the rear, while the meat is up front as it should be. So rj, your idea is a good one for the front of the vehicle. I'd have to make some more measurements to confirm them.

Rishie

Mr. deckedout, I'm interested in what had to be done to not rub. I've run 17,7 +40 wheels with 215/40/17, not lowered and when having passengers in the rear, would rub badly. So this would be cool to know. Did you roll your fenders? What kind of tires are you running? I had kumho 712's on the wheels I was running. Do you have the 712 or 711?

Thanks for the info Rishi. As always, you are the man (except for when TheMAN is the man .... anyway ..... )
I'm kinda diggin the Black Racing N1 wheel right now since it comes in so many possible sizes. Not too light though but not too expensive either.

pics: http://www.arw.co.jp/wheels/brn1.html
specs: http://www.arw.co.jp/wheels/brn1_spec.html

We're offerring a group buy on 5Zigen products, as they are the importer for this wheel. I'm currently looking into shipping for Canada, but it's worth a shot. Shoot me a PM and let me know what those wheels would run you in Canada. Keep in mind i don't know the exchange rate.

Black Racing N1:
http://www.1010tires.com/images/whee...lver_large.jpg

I will be ordering several of these wheels in the :bt: fitment. Let me know what color you were interested in. I'll be offerring awesome deals on the majority of the good fitting protege wheels. It's all in the works. It's taken sometime but it will soon be very easy for everyone to select wheels in all diameters via our website. Thanks for everyone's patience. I wanted to post the recipe because there's no way I could keep up will all the wheels that everyone wants. There's just too many calls to make. So I figured this way you guys could look into the offsets and such on your own. I wouldn't feel right holding that useful information from the public. Notariety is always appreciated though. hehe.

I've heard that the recipe has been pasted in other places without any mention of the amount of work and time this has taken me. :thumbs do Not to mention the number of wheels we've purchased that didn't fit to create this recipe. The recipe stems from real world fitments. It's all good though. As long as people aren't rubbing, right?

Hey, Rishie!! I can't tell you what a relief it is to finally see someone who cares as much about the little things as I do! I worked for a tire store for a couple of years where i really got into proper fitment. It made be a nut about widths, offsets, rolling diameter, etc. Most of the time I see people trying to explain this stuff they screw it all up, and I end up wanting to pull my hair out. I know the trial process is long and tedious, and you deserve many kudos for your efforts. From one fitment guy to another, thank you.

Would Focal R3 wheels with this info fit my 02 Pro Sedan in an 18"
Size Offset Bolt Pattern
18X7 +42 5-100/5-114.30

According to Rishie's chart, yes you can. YOu would have to use 205 tires though.

And keep in mind that the thinnest 18" tire is a 215. so from that respect it's a toss up. it's too close for me to tell.

Thanks for the mad props ProtoTex. I really appreciate that. I don't think many realize how many variables are involved with wheel selection as well as weight and so forth. It can be very technical. Being that our background stems from custom fitments via Kinesis, Fikse, HRE, etc... we are accustomed to doing so.

Thanks and Have a happy new year.

Rishie

Rishie, I also appreciate what you guys do and I would have bought my rims from you guys but I think I got a killer deal and from the prices quoted earlier on these rims, I don't think you could have done much better. But I will look forward to ording other items from you guys.

No problem Rider. I don't do enough business with Adr line of wheels to get the deepest deal. We are close so it's all good. As long as you're happy.

Rishie, or anyone
 

How about this:

Rota Slipstream 16x7"
+45mm offset
Yokohama AVS ES100 in a 225-45-16
Stock ride height for now

I actually have the same tire in 205-50-16 on order from Tirerack (on backorder.) The 225's are available now, for slightly more money.

Will this work on the P5 @ OE ride height? With a RB spring drop (.875 R .75 F)?

I'll stick with the 205's if needed, but would love to put 1.6" more tread on the ground (compared to stock.) :D

Thanks much,
Jim

Nevermind
 

I opted to stick with the 205-50-16's. :D

Jim

Hey Mack,
Why didn't you use the 225/45/16's? This was the setup I was considering for my P5 also.

Just too wide. I checked the clearence between the existing OE wheel / tire and the suspension, it seems a bit tight for a 225 (especially with a 7" wide wheel.)

It might fit, but I'm not willing to be the test subject. :D

Jim

The Speed World Challenge touring cars use 225/45 tires, so they will fit.

Good to hear. I'll settle for 205/50's on 16x7's. Maybe my next set of tires I'll give the 225/45's a try.

Thanks,
Jim

Thanks for reply Mack,
I will definitely do more research before committing to rim/tire combo. I looked at 225/45 next to 205/40 and they looked huge. If they will fit it will give the car a much more agressive look.

Not a problem. I'm interested to see if this fitment would work for a daily driver, as it would give the car a very aggressive stance!

Take care,
Jim

Yeah, but they use 17s not 16s. Furthermore, they've been modified to make it fit - not to mention that the sedans can fit slightly larger wheels/tires than the P5. I would love to put 225/45/17s on my car, but there is no way it will not rub without some rolling and possibly wheel spacers or other modifications. After all, this setup would be 1.25" wider, and almost 1.5" taller than the stock setup.

I've been refering to 16's all along... Have no plan for 17's. :D

Jim

Yes, I know. Rowan mentioned that the 225/45 size was used on Speed World Challenge touring cars and I was just clarifying that the wheel size on those cars are 17s not 16s. Also, just because they use a wheel on the speed cars, doesn't mean that they will fit street cars.

Word
 

Thanks for the insight. From what I see sitting in my living room (gotta love being single, and get away with things like that!,) the 205/50's are beefy enough for me. :)

Now for the damn snow to melt..... :rolleyes:

Thanks,
Jim