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MAC or PC
August-6th-2002, 02:10 PM
#31
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Originally posted by NoahsMP5
I don't have a damm clue as to what the hell all you are talking about. There is alot of computer oriented people on this board. I'm not one of them. I don't think this disscussion should come down to name calling because you like a different computer. But what do I know.
I don't have a damm clue as to what the hell all you are talking about. There is alot of computer oriented people on this board. I'm not one of them. I don't think this disscussion should come down to name calling because you like a different computer. But what do I know.
oh well.
August-6th-2002, 06:44 PM
#32
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You guys are just whiney. I'm doubting you even fully understand the architecture you are touting so much. I'm glad you have your RISC processors but we broke the gigahertz barrier a long time ago with more advanced memory technology and a much more advanced operating system. Anybody who would challenge Windows 2000 as the best operating system currently made does not understand software architecture. Anybody who would challenge the x86 as the best desktop computing architecture does not understand computing architecture. But then, what would a lowly systems engineer know about computing architecture? Maybe one of you guys would like to challenge one of the high end workstations I've built with my "inferior" x86 architecture. Hey, I'll even turn off the RAID striping for the swap file to slow down my "inferior" operating system. Here is a little factoid for you guys:
Unix has been around for decades. Windows 2000 and its architecture has been on the market for less than 10 years (NT 4.0 can be closely related to Win2k even though the products are as different as night and day). It is actually the first "modern" operating system (fully 32-bit).
But hey. Enjoy your PCI and USB busses. And Mac's suck.
Unix has been around for decades. Windows 2000 and its architecture has been on the market for less than 10 years (NT 4.0 can be closely related to Win2k even though the products are as different as night and day). It is actually the first "modern" operating system (fully 32-bit).
But hey. Enjoy your PCI and USB busses. And Mac's suck.
August-6th-2002, 09:39 PM
#34
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kc5zom, you must not work on chips much. The RISC is a FAR superiour architecture to the x86. Why do you think top-end Compaq's and HP's (btw, Compaq was and technically still is the leader in server technology) used Alpha processors...? And yet another misconception. Apple themselves not only broke the 1ghz barrier first, but they also broke the 2ghz barrier first. The sole reason they did not release a machine with these processors is because Motorolla makes the G4 processors and did not have the capability and reliability to make such a chip. The RISC has been at 64bit even before the x86 was NEAR the 32bit level. And if YOU truly understood software architecture, you would know that Compaq's own Tru64 operating system is the BEST operating system in existance utilizing a 64bit RISC processor in a TRUE 64bit environment. The x86 is by no means inferior and niether is Win2k. I LOVE Win2k with a passion and swear by its power and reliability. But the hard fact is that a Windows machine cannot by any means out do a Unix\Linux kernel. And THAT comes straight from a C\C++\C#\Java developer.
August-6th-2002, 10:01 PM
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Why do you think that top-end Compaq's and HP's are going to be moving to Itanium II technology in the near future? I wonder if it was possibly the fact that all benchmarks point to the Itanium II and the new AMD Opteron's kicking some serious Motorola butt? Anyway we were talking about 32-bit processors, not high-end low yield 64-bit processors. Your conception of the 1GHz and 2GHz barriers is quite humorous. Intel has been breaking those for awhile, but they actually went to production with it on the Pentium III. We have an HP Tru64 server. It also happens to be next to useless except for database operations. I would not even venture to call 64 bit Unix a modern operating system. Its been around for years, has limited support out of high-end devices, and the computers that run them are generally dinosaurs made to crunch out massive amounts of data but do little practical work. The amazing thing is that a well designed Microsoft SQL server has made the HP system redundant.
September-11th-2002, 12:38 AM
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I'll tell you what...... I have a very, very simple soultion to this..
until you have logged an equal amount of time on both machines.
and done the same thing on both machines (i.e. video edtiing)
then please don't contribute to this thread.
It deosn't matter what benchmark you've read, what your friend has, or what greatness is assembled in your office. If you haven't used all operating systems in a equally, (equivable environment) then please refrain from contribtuing to this post..
until you have logged an equal amount of time on both machines.
and done the same thing on both machines (i.e. video edtiing)
then please don't contribute to this thread.
It deosn't matter what benchmark you've read, what your friend has, or what greatness is assembled in your office. If you haven't used all operating systems in a equally, (equivable environment) then please refrain from contribtuing to this post..
Last edited by frostproof; September-11th-2002 at 12:43 AM.
September-11th-2002, 07:35 AM
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Well I can tell you all this. I am a computer network admin for a large company and there is no way in the world we would ever purchase a MAC. We do high intense graphic work along with video creation and editing. There isn't much we can't do with a PC. Although I see nothing wrong with a MAC and a couple of years ago I would have told you a MAC would beat you if you were doing graphic work. As for a three button mouse or a two button mouse that is a user preference. Nothing wrong I guess with MAC but lack of software is a big big key. Of course if you like style they do have cool looking colors and styles. You have the normal PC beat there.
September-11th-2002, 10:22 AM
#39
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frostproof, I like your thinking. I couldn't really agree with you more. I am a developer and use PC's, but I like Mac's and have a nominal experience with them.
I don't care either way.
Mac v. PC -> no real winner.
I don't care either way.
Mac v. PC -> no real winner.
September-11th-2002, 10:48 AM
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gracias mr. Green! 
it's all good....
2 more thoughts just to keep a level playing field
everyone on the video/graphics tip = 3 words = Final Cut Pro
and one more, (of course on both platforms), Adobe
and although you can get 400 different versions of 3D Backgammon for the PC that you can't get for the MAC you can also probably get about 50,000 more viruses
thanks,
= fp
it's all good....
2 more thoughts just to keep a level playing field
everyone on the video/graphics tip = 3 words = Final Cut Pro
and one more, (of course on both platforms), Adobe
and although you can get 400 different versions of 3D Backgammon for the PC that you can't get for the MAC you can also probably get about 50,000 more viruses
thanks,
= fp
Last edited by frostproof; September-11th-2002 at 10:53 AM.
September-11th-2002, 10:52 AM
#41
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Originally posted by frostproof
you can also get about 50,000 or so more viruses
you can also get about 50,000 or so more viruses
HAHAHAHAHA.....
it's so true...
oh well. yes Final Cut Pro is amazing ****. Funny thing is that they charge $100! for the customized keyboard to use with it. It's kinda ugly though. Adobe is good, but DAMN it's expensive.
