Zulu

Any one want to buy a French combat rifle?
It's never been fired and only dropped once!

browntrout

I'm actually not complaining about my goverment, I'm Canadian so I was complaining about the American government before.

Canadain government has its own issues that I can complain about but I'll save my breath becuase most Americans don't really know a world exists outside of theirs.

No one can sit there and tell me that the American government is going to war ONLY to liberate Iraq. They have something else to gain from this. Why don't they go liberate other countries under the same sort of dictatorship. What about Mugabe butchering people in Zimbabwe?

What gives America the right to choose who is being bad and who is being good. Who should recieve help and who should not? I'm sorry but if you can't see the fault in this system where basically one country can pretty much choose what wars are fought then there is nothing anyone can do to help you.

This war will not work the way the Government says it will. It is just going to add to tensions in the area already. Iran and Syria are already getting pissed due to repeated violations of their airspace when the made it clear that coalition forces were not to fly over their airspace. And then there are the stray missles hitting buses and going into other countries. Turkey has also said that it is going to move into Northern Iraq. Kuwauiti forces have moved across into Iraq and started claming land as theirs (which some of it may rightfully be).

hihoslva

The reason we don't give 3 ***** about Mugabe in Zimbabwe is because that nation has NO ability to finance a weapons program. If Zimbabwe had the level of income that Iraq does, and Mugabe stole 90% of that income to fund his own powermongering fetishes and weapons of mass destruction, you better believe we'd be looking at the situation.

But they don't. Zimbabwe is not an international threat - so we don't care.......for now.

~HH

funkdaddysmack

Yea, us americans... Root of all evil I don't appreciate someone who isn't a citizen of my country to be so quick to judge us. Go play some ice hockey, ya hoser. Now who's quick to judge?

Well, obviously there is fault in a system where we are the only nation standing up for what is right. If there weren't so many ***** *** nations afraid of the politics of backing the US instead of doing what's right, we wouldn't have to 'choose' who feels the wrath. I applaud every country that is supporting us in the current war. I find it astounding how countries hide behind all the politics, there's a point where you should just do the write thing, and **** politics.

This is what I hope happens:

We win, Saddam is removed from power. Iraq gets rebuilt, a fair government is put in place. The people don't starve, and have a strong economy. What I really think would be great is Iraq then gives a big **** you to France, Germany, and whomever else has a lot of stake in the oil there. Since they didn't help Iraq when they were in trouble, they should get the shaft. I think that would be terrific. But whatever, I guess it's all politics

browntrout

If you think that after Saddam is removed that things will be all peachy then you must be truly retarded! Did you see the warm welcome that coalition troops got in the Southern part of Iraq where they basically thought people would be laying down their arms and joining the fight against Saddam. It is going to take a very long term commitment to rebuild Iraq, Very long. Iraqi's do not want Americans there, that is pretty clear.

Now let me pose a hypothetical question here. Since America feels threated by a country that is on the other side of the world from it, is a Country like Japan allowed to make a Pre-emptive strike against North Korea becuase of a percieved threat? How about Russia taking out the Chechnyans (sp.?). Where is the line drawn becuase this sets a new precident where basically you don't require any real proof or evidence. If their is a percieved danger, bombs away!

And don't go bitching about other people judging your Country. The USA is not so high and mighty and above that. I live in a free country and so do you. You can speak up against your government. Americans have been judging France, Canada, and other coutries as well so **** you if you can't stand a little critism.

UCSBgeek

Nobody said this would be a totally easy war, except for the arm-chair strategians

Yeah, I agree, I am hoping this is the end of things for a while... the problem was Bush's hand was wayyyy too obvious that he wanted to go to war regardless of little evidence... anyways before anything happens again I hope we get evidence...and then present the case. If we go in guns blazing again... Nobody will ever listen to us anymore... There sure are justifiable threats out there...just gotta get people on your side.

funkdaddysmack

Oh, you crazy people with your opinions

browntrout

Why is what I said crazy? Please enlighten me? Nothing is even remotely far fetched.

funkdaddysmack

It was a joke... I've moved on, you have your opinions, I have mine. I respect that you feel differently than I do, so I'm leaving this thread alone, it's not worth me getting upset over. I didn't mean any disrepect by any of my posts, I hope you don't think that. I just have different opinions, and I need to respect other peoples opinions more...

hihoslva

And think - all I did was post a synopsis of a story on Howard Stern that made me chuckle the other morning....and it has degraded into this argument.

Certainly not what I intended.

Oh well.

~HH

kc5zom

Yeah, I actually thought that was pretty funny. The funnier the joke the more you can get away with. But I am sick of hearing France bashing. Just to remind you Americans that there is always a big dog and then that big dog just eventually seems to fade into the sunset (Egypt, Rome, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Mexico etc. etc. etc.). Remember we have only been around a couple of hundred years. There are other people that have been playing the game a lot longer.

jowettw

not trying to generalize the french, but some people need a bullet to the head

UCSBgeek

sickos. It reminds me of the people who vandalized a 9/11 memorial to those who died. They are dead, it's not like they have any say in the current policy. Stupidity at its best.