TheMAN

That is the American thinking that is ingrained into the American culture. This is what will cause the repeated failures in businesses, products, and people... not only do the average American like to buy a "cheaper" American car (and also be "patriotic"... riight.. guess how many parts on a domestic is labeled "made in canada" or "made in china"?), ANY American company likes to cut cost to the max to save their short term costs.... all of this **** will haunt them in 5-10 years when **** starts ******* up (all those auto recalls because some **** blew up shouldn't have ever happened if they didn't cut corners).. also, because everything is such a major piece of **** these days, people take **** for granted and thus we have a disposable mentality... if the 19.95 **** breaks, go buy another one... little do they know how ******* stupid they are then in 5 years they would have spent 100 bucks on the same piece of **** that breaks every year when they could have spent 60 bucks on a high quality made **** (American or not)

short term thinking kills

no offense, but Europeans and Asians do not think in such pathetic short terms IMO.. hence the major differences in business practices in American vs the rest of the world...

that's just the tip of the iceberg

fossil boy

... and what about glaciers?

Given what you've said, above (and I agree w/ you), how then can you, TheMAN, support recent US foreign policy actions. Especially so, since the majority of the regions you denoted are in such disagreement with our unilateral stance?

And no, this isn't flame-bait, but an honest question seeking sensible dialogue!

Farsyde

maybe this deserves it's own thread??

Bankie

I mostly consider them (foreign & domestic vehicles) equal. The domestic brands use a lot of foreign engineering and parts. GM uses a lot of Isuzu engines. DC uses a lot of Mitsubishi parts including drivetrains, chassis, etc.

Domestic cars are usually easier to work on yourself (shade tree mechanic) and the parts are usually cheaper and easier to find.

I bought a 96 Neon for $11k and the headgasket went at 120k miles. It cost me $400 dollars to have a mechanic fix it. So, I still saved around $3600 by not buying a foreign car (and I could have had problems with a foreign, you never know). Not to mention that I had more performance than a similar foreign car at the time.

Some people say that domestic cars are cheap because the companies cut corners. I think foreign cars are more expensive because some people are willing to pay more for what they percieve to be better.

midnightblue97

Anyone here ever worked on a Quad four?? Say, a head gasket, timing chain, or cracked cylinderhead?

How about the 3.4l 24 valve v6?? Ever change a timing belt on one of them??
Probably not unless you work at a G.M. dealer.
Or the Corvette ZR1 engine??

demoninvictus

now wtf kind of mentality is this man? while mitsubishi, toyota, and honda, to name a few, are japenese parts, if you live in the states, they are made with american hands, with american dollars, making pure american labor. the hell is that? if you ask me it's all in the design... domestic car makers make cars designed for americans, buying an import, you're fed what asian import automakers are engrained to deliver to us. and while the japenese are argueably more disciplined in their work, i'd be more inclined to think their more stressed and more over worked. take chevy for instance, their product line changes very little, designs from year to year are minimal in change. take ford, their car division is producing good quality cars, just not much change. every year the japenese and korean auto makers are delivering new products to us. and you know what, furthermore, ignore me, cause i'm just too tired to care about the substance of what i'm posting .
peace

midnightblue97

I hope you're tired because that didn't make much sense.