disapointment
November-30th-2002, 11:54 PM
#1
SHIFT_mystick
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disapointment
ok now i have to admit i love my protege, but after not driving it for a while ive decided on its major flaws:
-Poor driving position seat wise, too high and suv like
-aweful feeling long shifter (i iknow this can be fixed)
-poor poor support in the seats, flat with very little support (hold the steering wheel for dear life
) ... needs racing seats or something!
-and of course the shortage of power
now i know this can be fixed, but really these are things that have been pushing me lately to consider selling it! ack, i love the car, the community, and how it handles so much, but damn.... after a year and a half of ownership, i feel it was a poor investment now. and i never felt that way before
-Poor driving position seat wise, too high and suv like
-aweful feeling long shifter (i iknow this can be fixed)
-poor poor support in the seats, flat with very little support (hold the steering wheel for dear life
) ... needs racing seats or something!-and of course the shortage of power
now i know this can be fixed, but really these are things that have been pushing me lately to consider selling it! ack, i love the car, the community, and how it handles so much, but damn.... after a year and a half of ownership, i feel it was a poor investment now. and i never felt that way before
December-1st-2002, 01:03 AM
#4
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maybe i should just do what everyone keeps telling me to do, get a mazdaspeed, and put in some decent seats, tehn id be happy
or maybe i shouda kept the mp3... it was almost perfect as far as i was concerned......
oh well
or maybe i shouda kept the mp3... it was almost perfect as far as i was concerned......
oh well
December-1st-2002, 10:59 AM
#6
huh?
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Originally posted by blue LEDz
the seats of the mazdaspeed protege was one of the few faults SCC found with the car. they just put in cheap seats. and has anyone else felt their driver seat back wearing out? sit in the driver seat, then switch to the passenger seat. the back rest feels so much better. more support. oh well.
the seats of the mazdaspeed protege was one of the few faults SCC found with the car. they just put in cheap seats. and has anyone else felt their driver seat back wearing out? sit in the driver seat, then switch to the passenger seat. the back rest feels so much better. more support. oh well.
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December-1st-2002, 01:28 PM
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I was at the VW dealership last night drooling over the GLI, 200HP and a six-speed for about the same price as the Mazdaspeed. I've been tempted lately too because this thing feels so damn anemic sometimes and I really don't want to spend the money on a turbo. But I'll probably keep it until 2004 and buy a new one then. I've had so many annoying problems with the damn thing I'm kind of getting sick of it.
December-1st-2002, 04:10 PM
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Um, have you actually driven one of those new GLIs? Sure they have a lot more power, but they handle like boats, even equipped w/ the factory "Sport" suspension. The gearboxs in VWs aren't known for their nice shift quality either.
Fix the suspension (rear beam axles don't cut it for a 25K Euro sedan), fix the annoying problems these cars have, let Honda teach you how to make a gearbox, and shave about 2-300 pounds off the nose of the car because of the heavy VR6 engine...then you'll have a winner!
Fix the suspension (rear beam axles don't cut it for a 25K Euro sedan), fix the annoying problems these cars have, let Honda teach you how to make a gearbox, and shave about 2-300 pounds off the nose of the car because of the heavy VR6 engine...then you'll have a winner!
December-1st-2002, 04:44 PM
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i think the winner is tied between the new SRT-4 neon, and the MSP.... it just depends what you want. id go mazda, but the neon sure is tasty. Sport Compact did a nice article among high performance sport compacts, and those two were tied (but MSP got 2nd place). The Spec V is really an eye catcher to me also. but hey my p5 isnt so bad, hell i cannnn still squak the tires good when i shift to second fast. but im disapointed a ******* oldsmobile out accelerated me with 5 people in the car today (the ******* cut me off, the proceded to let me try to pass him then cut me off again.... if i woulda been in my se-r that *** woulda seen tails. we'll see, if mazda puts something nice out next year that i can get then we'll probably get it. cause no matter what i am actually selling the p5 in june or august.
December-1st-2002, 05:26 PM
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It's about a grand higher than MSRP on the MSP. But are you actually going to find an MSP for MSRP? I doubt it. Plus I kind of want a car whose clutch doesn't slip and the engine doesn't make a loud racket whenever its cold. I know, silly me expecting a car to not have to go in and have the entire flywheel clutch assembly replaced.
Plus I want my next vehicle to be one that actually has some luxury to it. The one I was looking at, and probably would buy, had heated leather seats, a monsoon sound system, ESP (like DSC), and sunroof all for around 24k on the sticker. The only thing that would make that sweeter is if they added the automatic climate system and the rain sensing windshield wipers. And the only vehicle Mazda makes that has any of these things is the 6, which I looked at on Friday, with its cheap looking interior (mainly the stupid dashboard).
Edit - GTI, the one based on the Golf
Plus I want my next vehicle to be one that actually has some luxury to it. The one I was looking at, and probably would buy, had heated leather seats, a monsoon sound system, ESP (like DSC), and sunroof all for around 24k on the sticker. The only thing that would make that sweeter is if they added the automatic climate system and the rain sensing windshield wipers. And the only vehicle Mazda makes that has any of these things is the 6, which I looked at on Friday, with its cheap looking interior (mainly the stupid dashboard).
Edit - GTI, the one based on the Golf
Last edited by kc5zom; December-1st-2002 at 05:36 PM.
December-1st-2002, 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by NegatiZE
Um, have you actually driven one of those new GLIs? Sure they have a lot more power, but they handle like boats, even equipped w/ the factory "Sport" suspension. The gearboxs in VWs aren't known for their nice shift quality either.
Fix the suspension (rear beam axles don't cut it for a 25K Euro sedan), fix the annoying problems these cars have, let Honda teach you how to make a gearbox, and shave about 2-300 pounds off the nose of the car because of the heavy VR6 engine...then you'll have a winner!
Um, have you actually driven one of those new GLIs? Sure they have a lot more power, but they handle like boats, even equipped w/ the factory "Sport" suspension. The gearboxs in VWs aren't known for their nice shift quality either.
Fix the suspension (rear beam axles don't cut it for a 25K Euro sedan), fix the annoying problems these cars have, let Honda teach you how to make a gearbox, and shave about 2-300 pounds off the nose of the car because of the heavy VR6 engine...then you'll have a winner!
December-1st-2002, 05:52 PM
#14
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i think i know my winner here, its either a Spec V if i cant afford what i want. But if i have the money.... illl be another convert: 2003 WRX (the new body style does it for me!)..... that car is nearly perfect for me! or even better the STi version.
December-1st-2002, 07:13 PM
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Oh, GTi but then those won't retail at MSRP also.
Just add a BEGI turbo to the P5 simple as that. With it you can hang or evn outgun a SE-R Spec V.
And don't expect the new SE-R to be like your old one. It is more shall we say, "Americanized".
Just add a BEGI turbo to the P5 simple as that. With it you can hang or evn outgun a SE-R Spec V.
And don't expect the new SE-R to be like your old one. It is more shall we say, "Americanized".