hughes412

That is the very reason I got the Ebay intake. Cheap! The money -V- Hp is good. I got everything shipped for 69.00. Just the CAI by itself is not that great, but if you put on a header and exhust it really opens the power band. And as far as warrantys go, no it will not void it. They sold them on the MSP and the MP3 (I think). They would have to prove that the intake was the cause of the problem.

Orange 3

I am tired of people writing without facts! Broten claims that he could drive his Swift for weeks and never fill up but with his mazda he has to fills up every "FREAKIN" day? MAKE ALOTS SENSE!!! Well its been over a week that I didn't fill up my mazda so does that mean it good on gas? But my scoupe I had to fill it up at least twice a week. O.K. I'll break this down for you, when I had the scoupe I lived an hour away from my work so hence the twice a week fill up. Now I only live 5 min away the last time I fill up was a week ago. Also the person who told you 42 mpg was totally wrong because I am getting what is advertise which is between 29 to 31 (IMP) mpg actually it in metric 9.7l / 100km. The other cars in this category (Matrix, Focus) are the same so what is mazda doing wrong?

Also you talk with 3000$ in the swift you keep up with corvette and camaros? Were they newer camaros with the LT1 or the 80's 305? BIG DIFFERENCE! Also 3000$ in anything will make a huge difference.

All I am saying that I thought the mazda 3 had pitiful performance I didn't feel a thing when I step on it compared to my scoupe. Even my brother and father said the exact same thing. The only thing I can think of that make the mazda have less "fell" is the fact the wheelbase is longer, stiffer spring in the rear. ETC. I just had to write this.

miles

You guys need to put your egos to bed. Lets talk about intakes, not how cool you think you are. These super long posts about nothing are really annoying. If you want to talk about nothing go to a chat room.

With that said heres an answer to the waranty question.
First of all I am pretty sure mazda never made cold air intakes for the proteges. Second of all if you want to buy a piece of **** of Ebay your going to have problems. You get what you pay for so go with reputable brands when modding your brand new $20,000 car.
If you get a cel with an intake on and it reads poor fuel:Air ratio the dealer is going to charge you because the intake is causing the problem. If your door starts squeeking or engine mounts break they have to fix it under waranty. If you get a problem go back to your stock intake and take it to the dealer. Thats why I went with the UMNITZA short ram because you can change it back to stock in less than an hour. Most intake problems are caused by people ******* up the install. The MAF is very sensitive and if it gets touched in the wrong place it will not read the amount of air coming into the engine properly. Also the wire going to the MAF needs to be lengthened because most aftermarket intakes are positioned further from the MAF than the stock air box. AEM is one intake that has this problem. So moral of the story is be really careful with the MAF and you should be good.

broten

Miles....take a pill, dude. if you don't like what's being said here, read on to the next entry. No one's holding your face to the screen.
Orange3, re-read my entry. I said "week", not "weeks". I'm not making any of that stuff up. I've been building/restoring for 30 years now, so I do know a bit. I've read online, AND been told by salesmen/women that the Mazda 3 gets 42 MPG (Canadian Imperial Gallons). That's a crock of *****, obviously.
Go here to see the American mileage figures:

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=MZ3

Anyway, back to something that relates to this topic!
I will be buying a Turbinator for my Mazda3 soon, and will get back to y'all about the preformance/mileage improvements, if there are any.
There...is that close to the topic?

broten

broten

Hitman_Hart!! You can't be that stupid! lol You shouldn't be here...you should be in the "Natural vs Synthetic wool" knitting forum! If you can't dig the "getting thrown back into the seat/acceleration" analogy, you're either a complete idiot or you're just being difficult. Either means you should be spanked and put to bed. Go show someone else how difficult you can be, ok?
Maxima? Altima?? lol!!!!!!

hughes412

Miles, I don't know where you got your info at but I (and many other well known members here) have the E-bay intake. I've had mine for about 9-10 months and have not had one problem with it. And in July of 03 when I bought this new I looked at the MSP in the show room and for 21+k it had the CAI on it from the dealer. It might have been a dealer installed mod but they still had it. I also had this on when they replaced my clutch under warranty, and they installed the 9lb flywheel at the same time. So the warranty issue just isn't there with the CAI. But that don't mean the dealer wont try to BS you. Just don't let them fool you!

And just for argument sake over wich intake is better there is a post here that compares the name brands to ebay. Just do a search. And come on try to keep it friendly. I don't think any of us want to talk about POWER. I traded in a 400hp 97 Z28 for this car. I built it myself and the only cars that beat me were highly modded turbos, one was a RX7 (a bad *** one too) a Supra and a freakin Honda civic. His turbo was bigger than his engine LOL! These cars even with turbos wouldn't hold a candle to them.

Orange 3

Broten, I am sorry for putting an "s" at the end of week, but still you haven't giving any actually numbers....just "talk". All I am saying if you appear in court without any facts...do you win your case? Also the mazda must have a smooth torque curve when accelerating so you fell the power gradually. Today cars aren't like the cars of 30 years ago where installing headers and an intake would give you over 50 hp easily.

As for CAI system goes, I personnally think paying more than 150$ is a waste for minimal gains of 4 hp to the wheel. I believe you could make one out of PVC piping with insulation and have better performance. I do agree a nose cone filter definetely suck more air.

Also since we all are on a "Ego trip" lol, well I am 26 years old, a Mechanical Engineer I design Fire Truck, I have worked in a automotive garage since High School. I am currently restoring "frame off" a 1980 turbo Trans Am Y-84. I help my brother restore his 1978 Trans Am Y-82 and my parent's 1937 Nash Ambossador that soon will be completed. But no means I am expert, I just enjoy working on cars like everyone else!

Here a link of pictures of TA
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/731422
Latest I have attach the front frame, rear diff, suspension (new bushing), doors, fuel tank, brake line, fuel line and the wiring in the dash.

miles

Hughs 412 did you install that 9lb flywheel on your 3. How much was it with the install and how does the car drive Is it the Mazdaspeed flywheel?

hughes412

No I have a Protege 03. I didn't know you all were talking about the 3 until a little while ago.
But still they only charged me 40 to install it because they were replacing the clutch for chatter. They tried to say it was only warranted to 12k miles (i had 23k on it) but after I showed them how many other people have or had the same problem and so did the miatas the did it. There is a thread on this I posted as well.

broten

Hi Orange 3....no apology is necessary. You're right of course. All I can do to convince someone, is to use English as best as I can. I DO know, however, that when I floored the Swift GTi, it accelerated FIERCELY, didn't protest, pulled STRONGLY right up to 7300 RPM, Revved HAPPILY up to 7300 RPM, and overall behaved like a Jack Russell Terrier on Benzedrine. It never lost its breath....never. This thing sinply F*CKED OFF...no two ways about it. I've owned few Vettes, an AMG, Toyota Supra, etc etc etc.....and the Swift GTi was the one that surprised the ***** out of me. Pound for pound, $ for $....none of those came even CLOSE to being the car that the Swift GTi was. If you haven't spent any time in one, you can't POSSIBLY comment with any authority. QED!
What's this "ego-trip" *****? I just mentioned what I'd accomplished, so that you'd get an idea what I'm about....nothing more. Someone's opinion carries more weigth when it's backed up with something concrete.
I do respect your accomplishments Orange 3. Of course, your writings carry more weight with me after I read about our background! NOW...I know you're aren't talking out of your *** when you reply. I'm impressed with your ability, for sure. You have my respect. Nice pics too.
Ok...the Mazda 3....has Variable Valve Timing....it clicks in at just above 3 grand RPM. It's not constantly variable...like what we, as smart car-people would think it was....no...it has two settings: below 3000 RPM, and above 3000 RPM!! <<<sheesh>>> pretty damned weeny, in my opinion. Lexus had Constantly Variable Valve Timing 10 years ago...why does Mazda not use it? Anyway, this'll continue in the thread Hitman-Hart started. See ya there.

broten

Hitman Hart

First of all Broten, I don't appreciate you calling me an idiot. How old are you? 15?Hey, my taste is just different than yours. You probably wear jeans to work, I wear Hugo Boss suits. Nothing wrong with that.

It's just my opinion. You call me an idiot? Look in the mirror. You buy a Mazda 3, and now you're complaining about its performance?? Did you test drive the car before you bought it? If not, you have only yourself to blame. If you did test drive it, and bought it and complained about how it performs after the fact , you only have yourself to blame. Who's the idiot? And you call me an idiot?

I'm not trying to get into a fight, but your remarks are completely uncalled for. I didn't call you names. I just offered an opinion that's probably different than yours. Grow up, and get your head out of your pimply ***.

Oh, one more thing. I hope you're not really interested in spanking me? That's scary.

Hitman Hart

Hey Orange 3. Personally, I think the Mazda has less "feel" is becaus it's contructed like a Volvo.

broten

Look Hurtman.....read this line and try to understand it: "you're either a complete idiot or you're just being difficult" Got it? Ok....this is what it means; you're an idiot, OR you're being difficult. I didn't think you were an idiot...I thought you were being difficult, I thought you were being contrary just to start an argument. Re-read that sentence a couple of times, so you really understand it. I think I've changed my mind after reading your last reply though. Why is ot SO difficult for you to understand the "being thrown back into the seat" concept? You MUST be trying to be difficult! Most people would have left this alone. So LEAVE IT ALONE ALREADY , DUDE!
Move on...life's too short. Just consider this statement as one you just can't understand, ok?
AND....it wasn't your opinion....it was a contrary statement. It was meant to inflame.
LOL! You HAVE TO wear a suit to work?...I wear whatever I want to work. I spend likely 10 times on work clothes than you do, and have to write them off on my taxes. Do you write your clothes off at tax-time?? Ok! That has nothing to do with anything, so lay off it.
I definitely respect your opinion. It 's just that what you've said so far sounds rather nasty and contrary. People don't respond very well to that kind of thing....so what kind of response were you expecting???
Another thing....you've seen my ***? Shame on you. Stay off those **** sites!
Speaking of ***, the Mazda3 has a remarkable "seat-of-the-pants" feel, I have to admit. it isn't mushy as I thought it would be. The steering is the same. It's not a Swift GTi though. When we're talking "feel", and "driving feedback", the Swift GTi is the Boss Machine. Damn...there I go again...talking about the Swift GTi! The ULTIMATE Pocket Rocket. Mini Cooper?? lol It WISHES!
When the warranty runs out on my Mazda 3 (if it's still around), I'll throw a supercharged V6 into it. THEN it'll move like a real car SHOULD move.

hughes412

There is a story here that I think some one should tell!

YOU'VE SEEN MY ***

STAY OFF OF THEOSE **** SITES!

Hummm sounds fishy to me .

broten

Anybody know where that other thread that someone started for me is located? I've lost the link to it, and I can't remember what it was called.
Thanks!

broten

p.s. No story.