General Automotive For other auto manufacturer discussions

GM vs. Toyota: by the #'s

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old December-24th-2005, 10:47 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
vegasdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Las Vegas, NV, USA
Posts: 258
vegasdriver is on a distinguished road
Exclamation GM vs. Toyota: by the #'s

GM vs. Toyota: By the Numbers
by Diane Geng

Dec. 19, 2005 -- General Motors has been the world's No. 1 automaker since 1931. But GM's dominant position is eroding rapidly. Last year, Toyota surpassed Ford Motor Co. to become No. 2 in the global vehicle market. Some analysts predict Toyota will catch up to GM in two to three years. In November 2005, GM announced that over the next three years it plans to cut 30,000 jobs and reduce capacity by 30 percent from 2002 levels. We compare the global auto industry's two titans, with an emphasis on the U.S. and North American markets.

Vehicle Production Started in U.S.
Source: GM & Toyota

GM:
1908

Toyota:
1986


Brands Sold in North America
Source: GM & Toyota

GM:
Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn

Toyota:
Toyota, Lexus, Scion, Hino


Best-Selling Vehicle in U.S.
Source: GM & Toyota

GM:
Chevrolet Silverado
680,768 sold in 2004

Toyota:
Toyota Camry
426,990 sold in 2004


U.S. Sales in 2004
Source: Harbour Consulting & Toyota

GM:
4,655,459

Toyota:
2,060,049


U.S. Market Share
Source: First nine months of 2005, Harbour Consulting


GM:
26.8%

Toyota:
13%


Vehicle Production in North America 2004
Source: GM & Toyota

GM:
5.2 million

Toyota:
1.44 million


Profitability per Vehicle
Source: 2005 Harbour Report

GM:
Loses $2,331 per vehicle

Toyota:
Makes $1,488 per vehicle


Net Income in the First 9 Months of 2005
Source: Harbour Consulting

GM:
$4.15 billion loss from North America operations off-set by profits in Europe and Asia for an overall loss of $3.8 billion

Toyota:
$7.89 billion (¥921.7 billion, converted at 116.81 yen to $1)


Number of Plants in North America
Source: GM & Toyota

GM:
77, all unionized. Plans to close 12 facilities by 2008 (see press release).

Toyota:
12, three unionized in Long Beach, Calif., Fremont, Calif., and Tijuana, Mexico.


Average Plant Capacity Utilization
Source: Harbour Report 2005

GM:
85%

Toyota:
107% using overtime workers


Production Time per Vehicle
Source: 2005 Harbour Report

GM:
34.3 hours, 2.5% improvement since 2003

Toyota:
27.9 hours, 5.5% improvement since 2003


North American Workforce
Source: GM & Toyota, Dec. 2005

GM:
White collar: 36,000
Production: 106,000.
Retirees: 460,000

Toyota:
White collar: 17,000
Production: 21,000
Retirees: 1,600


Average Hourly Salary for Non-Skilled, Assembly Line Worker
Source: Center for Automotive Research

GM:
$31.35/hour
NOTE: Includes idle workers still on payroll and those on protected status.

Toyota:
$27/hour
NOTE: Includes year-end bonus.


Health Care Costs per Vehicle in 2004
Source: 2005 Harbour Report & A.T. Kearny Inc.

GM:
$1,525

Toyota:
$201


Average Labor Cost per U.S. Hourly Worker
Source: GM & Toyota

GM:
$73.73

Toyota:
$48


Worldwide Sales in 2004
Source: Harbour Consulting

GM:
8.9 million

Toyota:
7.7 million


Global Market Share
Source: Automotive News annual ranking of the world's automakers by sales and production, figures for 2004

GM:
13.2%, down from 14.6% in 2002

Toyota:
10.9% up from 10.6% in 2002


Worldwide Vehicle Production Projected for 2005
Source: 2005 Harbour Report

GM:
9 million
Manufacturing operations in 32 countries, vehicles sold in 200 countries

Toyota:
8.4 million
Manufacturing operations in 26 countries and regions, vehicles sold in over 170 countries
vegasdriver is offline  
Old December-24th-2005, 11:19 AM
  #2  
The man behind the mask
 
Roddimus Prime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 11,572
Roddimus Prime is on a distinguished road
amazing....here's what I found interesting.


"Profitability per Vehicle
Source: 2005 Harbour Report

GM:
Loses $2,331 per vehicle

Toyota:
Makes $1,488 per vehicle "


and...

"Average Hourly Salary for Non-Skilled, Assembly Line Worker
Source: Center for Automotive Research

GM:
$31.35/hour
NOTE: Includes idle workers still on payroll and those on protected status.

Toyota:
$27/hour
NOTE: Includes year-end bonus"


I'm obviously in the wrong line of work. I need to go to the honda or Hyundai plant here and see if they're hiring.
Roddimus Prime is offline  
Old December-24th-2005, 11:34 AM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
vegasdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Las Vegas, NV, USA
Posts: 258
vegasdriver is on a distinguished road
Thumbs down

Yah, its pretty sad.
I believe that health insurance costs are a main factor in loss per vehicle......

Last edited by vegasdriver; December-24th-2005 at 01:29 PM.
vegasdriver is offline  
Old December-24th-2005, 12:55 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
scotty878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lincroft, NJ
Posts: 1,105
scotty878 is on a distinguished road
Toyota > GM
scotty878 is offline  
Old December-24th-2005, 01:58 PM
  #5  
The man behind the mask
 
Roddimus Prime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 11,572
Roddimus Prime is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by scotty878
Toyota > GM

hmm...yes and no

corvette Z06 > all

corolla > none

Roddimus Prime is offline  
Old December-24th-2005, 03:27 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
ghettopro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Jasper , TN
Posts: 1,735
ghettopro is on a distinguished road
Supra > Vette

but that doesnt count does it?
ghettopro is offline  
Old December-25th-2005, 01:41 AM
  #7  
Moderator/ Pocket Tuner
 
macdaddyslomo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Tampa,Fl
Posts: 4,150
macdaddyslomo is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by ghettopro
Supra > Vette

but that doesnt count does it?
considering it aint true ???

nope. doesnt count

on topic

Toyota WILL surpass GM as the #1 car company in the world, VERY soon
macdaddyslomo is offline  
Old January-10th-2006, 05:40 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
zerocover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 778
zerocover is on a distinguished road
GM has to get off its *** and get rid of all the workers that are making way too much.


Average Labor Cost per U.S. Hourly Worker
Source: GM & Toyota

GM:
$73.73

Toyota:
$48
zerocover is offline  
Old January-10th-2006, 09:06 PM
  #9  
The man behind the mask
 
Roddimus Prime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 11,572
Roddimus Prime is on a distinguished road
I love the fact that Alabama, Tennesse and Mississippi are the new Detroit. We've got Mercedes, Hyundai and Honda here within an hour of me in each direction. In MS, they've got Nissan and Nissan is building their new US headquarters in Smyrna TN where the Saturn (GM) plant is being closed in the near future.

Congrats GM you're the death of the US car market.
Roddimus Prime is offline  
Old January-11th-2006, 11:12 AM
  #10  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
vegasdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Las Vegas, NV, USA
Posts: 258
vegasdriver is on a distinguished road
Talking

That time has arrived where some lazy *ss southern people, can actually get themselves to work and be productive! (jk)
vegasdriver is offline  
Old January-13th-2006, 11:51 AM
  #11  
Registered User
 
meGrimlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: DC metro area
Posts: 866
meGrimlock is on a distinguished road
omg 460,000 retirees. they need to take a page from the airline industry and cut them off.
meGrimlock is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
speedrush
Racing Stories
3
November-24th-2008 03:19 AM
javanc
General Automotive
0
October-16th-2004 02:57 PM
call_me_stets
Racing Stories
33
July-10th-2004 06:00 PM
nealca32
Off-Topic
5
August-11th-2003 07:08 PM
mazdaproud
3rd gen Engine/Drivetrain
10
July-6th-2003 03:11 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: GM vs. Toyota: by the #'s



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:31 AM.