Sal's "J"

Does any one know if any company offers a supercharger for the 3rd Gen? or are in the process of developing one? I searched the site but could not find any info. I would prefer a supercharger Vs Turbo for more power under normal daily driving conditions and occasional auto-x.

Eric F

I would really like that option also. Unfortunately, I haven't heard of one even being considered to be built by anyone.

Sal's "J"

Yeah, I just talked to Jackson Racing, and they are not even considering developing one for the Pro because they said that they still have a lot of other cars that they are trying to develope for. Maybe if they get enough request they might consider one, one can only hope. I guess now, my only other option is try to transplant an FSZE.

Eric F

Same cost or more, more difficult install, and still less low end torque. We need someone to make supercharger kit. I would think that would be easier than a turbo kit since it wouldn't need as much plumbing. An aluminum intake manifold has got to be easier than a cast iron exhaust manifold.

RebelRacing

You might consider a turbo if any are available.
A supercharger puts a lot of stress on the crankshaft. Also, low to mid range power is what superchargers are designed for (unless you have a Paxton or Vortec style "glorified turbo" type) Many times a supercharger will die off in the upper RPM, where most 4-cylinders are designed to run. High RPM engine speeds don't do as much harm as people might think...it's low speed "lugging" that can kill a motor.

I am currently looking into turbocharging my '99!
I have a turbo from an 87-88 Thunderbird Turbocoupe (basically a Garrett T3). It will take some time to figue out all the details, if I can even complete it (designing things on your own includes a lot of praying!)

Besides, nothing gives you a better BOOST than a turbo (no pun intended, maybe)...not even nitrous!

obender66

I drove Gran Prix GTP with SC-not bad! But it's already has 3.8 liter...
Don't want to turn this tread into turbo vs superhcarger type, but I also drove Saab 9-3 Turbo. Just 185 hp in 3100 lb car....no lag, no wheelspin- it just goes!
Max torgue(about 190 lb/ff) is available from 2100 rpm, what kinda lag we are talking about?
Alex

Sal's "J"

Exactly, I too have no need for a turbo as I don't street race on a regular basis or drag race where a turbo will be really helpfull. I just want a little more power to make my daily driving a little more "spirited". As what I prefer on a SC, I really like the root type, yes it will put a little more tension on my crankshaft, but the power is more constant where as a spool type acts more like a turbo. Plus the 2.0 is a bigger engine and can probably handle the load a little easier. I guess I'll just keep hoping for one to come out.

Kincaid

If you only want more "spirited" daily driving than why not do a I/H/E route? An Injen CAI, FSZE exhaust cam or headers and a 2.25 - 2.5 inch exhaust would do great for what you want.

Just my .02 cents.

Sal's "J"

Well since there is no supercharger offered as of yet, then that is my only option other than transplanting an FSZE.

Kincaid

Here's the cost differences:

Exhaust cam Mazda Motor Sports $136.90
Intake cam Mazda MotorSports $167.10
Injen CAI, $235.61
Custom Catback Exhaust, Around $300


FSZE Replacement:
FSZE 170Hp Engine, $2061 from Corksport
You'll also need a custom ECU to increase the redline for the new engine. No idea on the cost of this let alone if anyone has accomplished this yet.
And an install price of probably in the $300 range.

All prices in USD.

So overall the CAMs, Intake and Exhaust approach is much more cost-effective.

Again, just my .02.

obender66

Taking into consideration "bang for a buck"-cams +bolt ons are more cost effective indeed-they will give aroung 20hp for $60 per hp.
FS-ZE.....would be around $80 per hp+possible emission concerns.I did not take into account freight and time with undriveable car.

Alex

Kincaid

Lol. I forgot about emissions laws. We don't have any inspections here. So no worries about that here.

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And who have you found that will install an engine for 300 bucks? Id be scared to see his shop.

Actually there is an old mechanic here that my father and grandfather have always went to. And he does engine swaps for $350 Canadian. And the car is only out of comission for 4 days. A quaint little place and he works by himself in his own garage. A lot of people probably wouldn't trust him based on tyhis brief description but we've known him a long time.

Sal's "J"

Exactly, everything is already there, just need to make it fit properly. As far as the emissions, I just need to stay out of CA or FL and I won't have to worry about passing any emissions test. Can you imagine hooking up the FSZE w/ a supercharger or turbo?(whenever the import tuning market gets their head out of their *#@! and realize the potential of the Pro). I can then go head to head w/ the Integras and Civic SI's.

Eric F

You're missing the point. The FS-ZE engine, as well as the cams, will make the engine even more high strung, or peaky while only added a small amount of power. A supercharger will boost low and midrange power substantially, and provide excellent linear throttle response. That's what I'd like.