N2O in a 1st gen?
#1
N2O in a 1st gen?
hey wussup? okay i've done a search and have found nothing about 1st gen's only 2nd and 3rd...........
my question is: i saw a universal nitrous kit from NOS and i was wondering can this be used on a 1st gen? or does anybody make a kit for 1st gen's? (i have a dx by the way)...also how much power can the engine handle stock?
all i have is an intake and i'm getting exhaust in a couple months
i want to get nitrous because its cheaper than a turbo and i don't have that type of money but
i only have basic knowledge of nitrous i know i would have to get cooler spark plugs and run like 93 octane gas and some other things but i figured i'd ask you guys before i buy anything and blow my engine to kingdom come
aight any help or advise would be great
my question is: i saw a universal nitrous kit from NOS and i was wondering can this be used on a 1st gen? or does anybody make a kit for 1st gen's? (i have a dx by the way)...also how much power can the engine handle stock?
all i have is an intake and i'm getting exhaust in a couple months
i want to get nitrous because its cheaper than a turbo and i don't have that type of money but
i only have basic knowledge of nitrous i know i would have to get cooler spark plugs and run like 93 octane gas and some other things but i figured i'd ask you guys before i buy anything and blow my engine to kingdom come
aight any help or advise would be great
#2
Im planning to get nitrous on my 1st gen DX too . Imma get the universal wet NX kit and imma use a 50 shot( I think thats all a stock SOHC can handle). Yeah, universal nitrous kits should work on a Pro, I guess. I think we're gonna be one of the first 1st gen Pro's to have nitrous
#3
Im planning to get nitrous on my 1st gen DX too . Imma get the universal wet NX kit and imma use a 50 shot( I think thats all a stock SOHC can handle). Yeah, universal nitrous kits should work on a Pro, I guess. I think we're gonna be one of the first 1st gen Pro's to have nitrous
aww man thats tight let me know how it goes if you get it before me
#4
save yourself time and money by asking as many questions and reading as many posts all over the place before installing nos. It seems fun but can ruin your engine real quick. Or elseyou will have a nos bottle worth more than your entire car that makes a good paperwieght. Im not trying to be an ***, its just that im trying to save you time and money in the future.
#5
nothing like running a 50 shot of nos through your engine and watching your tranny and engine blow up all at once, it'd be a nice fireworks show. trust me, to run nos, you need a lot of know-how and work. if you want to put your pro on the bottle, i'd suggest getting your crash helmet and your wallet ready for a new car.
peace
peace
#6
so even if i was to use a lower setting ONLY once in awhile it would tear it up? i wasn't going to use it all the time only every once in a while and i prob wasn't gonna run it at 50
would it be aight if i ran it on a lower setting?
would it be aight if i ran it on a lower setting?
#7
you can run it at 50 fine,(the most ive ever heard a bp run without many upgrades is a 75 safely on a daily basis) the problem is, especially with universal kits that if you lean out while under the bottle you can slowly cause damage as well as many other problems. All you have to do is educate yourself with nos. Read up on what rpm the engine should be at when you push the button, if any other parts can wear out quicker or malfunction and what you can upgrade now that may not cost you too much and could save your engine etc. Im not saying you shouldnt get it, just read up to save yourself a headache. NOS woud be sweet in a pro!
#8
ok thanks for the heads up
i was planning on looking into it more anyway i was prob gonna have a shop put it in too cuz like you were saying i don't wanna F* my engine up so i'll look into it more, again thanks
i was planning on looking into it more anyway i was prob gonna have a shop put it in too cuz like you were saying i don't wanna F* my engine up so i'll look into it more, again thanks
#9
50 Shot Wet should alright...The tranny should be able to hold it...Now if you have a auto tranny i would suggest a tranny cooler..HOw many miles do you have?? If you have over 75,000 i would suggest staying away from nitrous...
Introducing it into a worn in protege is not a good thing..good luck
chas
Introducing it into a worn in protege is not a good thing..good luck
chas
#10
The reasons why cars with nitrous mess up their engines, besides the obvious: too big of a shot for the internals to handle, are usually poor fuel management and over-revving.
Like the others suggested, a wet setup is the way to go. Even though the BP runs very rich at WOT from the factory, the extra O2 from the nitrous will usually make the mixture lean if you are running a dry setup. As you probably know, lean = bad
When running a wet setup on cars with fuel-cut off based rev-limiters like the 2nd gen BP Protégé (I am not sure about the 1st gen's setup) , the rev limiter might now always work like it's supposed to. This can send you past the redline and cause damage.
If you can control your urges, be smart (with installation and use) and stay with a safe shot, nitrous is alright.
Like the others suggested, a wet setup is the way to go. Even though the BP runs very rich at WOT from the factory, the extra O2 from the nitrous will usually make the mixture lean if you are running a dry setup. As you probably know, lean = bad
When running a wet setup on cars with fuel-cut off based rev-limiters like the 2nd gen BP Protégé (I am not sure about the 1st gen's setup) , the rev limiter might now always work like it's supposed to. This can send you past the redline and cause damage.
If you can control your urges, be smart (with installation and use) and stay with a safe shot, nitrous is alright.
#11
50 Shot Wet should alright...The tranny should be able to hold it...Now if you have a auto tranny i would suggest a tranny cooler..HOw many miles do you have?? If you have over 75,000 i would suggest staying away from nitrous...
the car has 63,000 miles on it, it's a 5 speed and its in really good condition except i have to replace the cv joints but other than that its a really good car....
If you can control your urges, be smart (with installation and use) and stay with a safe shot, nitrous is alright
thanks
#12
A wet kit is better than a dry kit..as noted before..b/c our computers would have to adjust/increase the amount of fuel given to the engine..a wet kit..gives the proper amount of fuel every time!!
I would suggest going w/ nitrous express..they have some great kits..and the best part is you can usually get them shipped to your door for around $500.00 usd!!!
The install on it is fairly simple..or you can get it done by a pro like i did for about $200usd...
Chas
I would suggest going w/ nitrous express..they have some great kits..and the best part is you can usually get them shipped to your door for around $500.00 usd!!!
The install on it is fairly simple..or you can get it done by a pro like i did for about $200usd...
Chas
#14
i don't know much about nitrous, but what happens when you slam the accelerator on your car? does it go faster? yes! is it unnecessary, most cases, yes! my simple question is why the hell if you haven't done any modifications on your car, no upgrades on anything, would you put your 100,000+ mile car on the bottle? i mean, the implications of running a $1000 to 2000 dollar setup so you can street drive on nitrous is retarded. i mean, if you're racing, have you upgraded your seals, your cam shafts, struts or springs, some form of an intake, any type of exhuast upgrade, anything, anything at all? not all of this or any of this is necessary for racing, i'm just wondering what would posess somebody to nos their import without paying attention to other details? i mean, for the humility of saying you drive a forced induction 4 cylinder is funny, and is good for it's fair share of laughs. i mean, what's your car actually capable of, have you found out? we did a discussion on this before, seems like the most anybody topped out at was 120? and it's not a matter of 'whether' or not your car can handle a 50 shot of nitrous, what about the added strain and tearing up you'll do to your vehicle? if you have the money to waste and another car to drive, then great, but why bother? sorry, i've said my piece, good luck.
peace
peace
#15
i don't know much about nitrous, but what happens when you slam the accelerator on your car? does it go faster? yes! is it unnecessary, most cases, yes! my simple question is have you done any modifications on your car. why would you put your 100,000+ mile car on the bottle? i mean, the implications of running a $1000 to 2000 dollar setup so you can street drive on nitrous is retarded. i mean, if you're racing, have you upgraded your seals, your cam shafts, struts or springs, some form of an intake, any type of exhuast upgrade, anything, anything at all? not all of this or any of this is necessary for racing, i'm just wondering what would posess somebody to nos their import without paying attention to other details? i mean, for the humility of saying you drive a forced induction 4 cylinder is funny, and is good for it's fair share of laughs. i mean, what's your car actually capable of, have you found out? we did a discussion on this before, seems like the most anybody topped out at was 120? and it's not a matter of 'whether' or not your car can handle a 50 shot of nitrous, what about the added strain and tearing up you'll do to your vehicle? if you have the money to waste and another car to drive, then great, but why bother? sorry, i've said my piece, good luck.
peace
ps. i keep reading this over and over, and i must admit, it'd be hilarious.
peace
ps. i keep reading this over and over, and i must admit, it'd be hilarious.