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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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Pakfeifer.......

Just curious about something.......Every front end for my 2000 pro requires either trimming or complete removal of, I think it's called, the 5mph bumper reinforcement. (Not sure if that's what it is called). My question is whether or not the Pakfeifer front bumper requires the same thing? If it does, why can't somebody make one that doesn't require this? Is it yet another thing that makes this car so damn difficult to modify?

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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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more than likely, you'll be removing the 5mph bumper. Many/Most aftermarket (non-oem) bumpers do not "stick out" very far in the front. Thus, the bumper has to go.

The 5mph bumper reinforcement is a thick plastic piece behind your bumper cover. I believe it's white or yellowish. You'll know it when you see it.
Old Oct 16, 2002 | 08:01 AM
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Re: Pakfeifer.......

Originally posted by pimp_runner_69
Just curious about something.......Every front end for my 2000 pro requires either trimming or complete removal of, I think it's called, the 5mph bumper reinforcement. (Not sure if that's what it is called). My question is whether or not the Pakfeifer front bumper requires the same thing? If it does, why can't somebody make one that doesn't require this? Is it yet another thing that makes this car so damn difficult to modify?

Thanks for any info.......
since the Pakfeifer kit is designed for the european protege/323, you WILL have to remove the bumper rebar to get it to fit. european countries do not have the the same bumper requirements that the US has, so the bumpers over there do not stick out as far pasts the headlights as the US bumpers do.
Old Oct 16, 2002 | 01:07 PM
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what will it do?

What will it really do if this is removed? I mean, if I get hit w/o this is it going to kill me or total my car? Any chance that the insurance companies will try to not cover me w/o this? And is there any way to put something back there for some protection?

I know, a lot of questions!
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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I'm assuming the European and Japanese-spec cars have SOME kind of bumper reinforcement underneath the bumper cover, so why not order that part to replace the US-spec reinforcement? Just a thought...
Old Oct 18, 2002 | 01:37 AM
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J-spec bumper reinforcement

I'm assuming the European and Japanese-spec cars have SOME kind of bumper reinforcement underneath the bumper cover, so why not order that part to replace the US-spec reinforcement? Just a thought...
Do you or does anyone know of a part number for this or any place that I can get this through. I was thinking Corksport, any other ideas outside of that?

Thanks, Nick
Old Oct 18, 2002 | 07:17 AM
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Re: J-spec bumper reinforcement

Originally posted by pimp_runner_69


Do you or does anyone know of a part number for this or any place that I can get this through. I was thinking Corksport, any other ideas outside of that?

Thanks, Nick
Either Corksport, or unless you have a buddy overseas that would be kind enough to order something like that for you...
Old Oct 19, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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I once saw a Japanese web site of a guy who removed his stock Familia front bumper, there was NOTHING behind it.. just the radiator.. he had a stock front bumper from there, obviously.

I doubt there's a Reinforcement in Asian or European countries, at all, judging by this.
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