low-beam bulb suggestions?
February-12th-2003, 04:35 AM
#17
formerly chastan
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Originally posted by TheMAN
I think I should start a light bulb company and make light bulbs "like HID" and "as much as this wattage".... I'll get rich so fast
ignorance is bliss
I think I should start a light bulb company and make light bulbs "like HID" and "as much as this wattage".... I'll get rich so fast
ignorance is bliss
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February-12th-2003, 08:18 AM
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People that have to resort to foul language to make a point in a discussion are usually losing the battle and their true ignorance is revealed!!!
I guess you never heard of I Love Lucy, Ricky Ricardo says "splain me...", oh, it's over your head... You must be fun at parties!!!
Go down to your local hardware store and look at the different brands of household bulbs... look at the package and read lumen output. A 60 watt bulb will have different lumen output (how much light) at the same wattage level. The same applies to all incandescent bulbs (halogens are incadescent too, just with a different inert gas).
I guess you never heard of I Love Lucy, Ricky Ricardo says "splain me...", oh, it's over your head... You must be fun at parties!!!
Go down to your local hardware store and look at the different brands of household bulbs... look at the package and read lumen output. A 60 watt bulb will have different lumen output (how much light) at the same wattage level. The same applies to all incandescent bulbs (halogens are incadescent too, just with a different inert gas).
February-12th-2003, 10:11 AM
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wouldn't the lumen output be dependent on the density of the tungsten filament? i'm sure the color of the bulb also plays a part in the lumenosity of bulb. there is no bulb on the market right now that uses tungsten filaments that can claim equal lumens for lower wattage.
case in point: a 60 watt bulb gives off 960 lumens. a 30 watt bulb using the same tungsten filaments cannot produce 960 lumens. perhaps the brightest 30 watt bulb can put out 600 lumens. you can even stick a halogen gas in the bulb to make it a "halogen lamp", but it still won't make 960 lumens. unless you change the gases in the bulb and eliminate the tungsten filament all together, there is no way on god's green earth that lumen counts can be the same between, say, a 55w bulb and a 110w bulb. ESPECIALLY when they are both made of the same material. sure, there can be brighter 55w bulbs than others, but to get it to 110w output equivalent? no way, no how. there's simply not enough resistance going through the tungsten filament in a lower wattage bulb to cause it to light up as much as in the higher wattage bulb.
case in point: a 60 watt bulb gives off 960 lumens. a 30 watt bulb using the same tungsten filaments cannot produce 960 lumens. perhaps the brightest 30 watt bulb can put out 600 lumens. you can even stick a halogen gas in the bulb to make it a "halogen lamp", but it still won't make 960 lumens. unless you change the gases in the bulb and eliminate the tungsten filament all together, there is no way on god's green earth that lumen counts can be the same between, say, a 55w bulb and a 110w bulb. ESPECIALLY when they are both made of the same material. sure, there can be brighter 55w bulbs than others, but to get it to 110w output equivalent? no way, no how. there's simply not enough resistance going through the tungsten filament in a lower wattage bulb to cause it to light up as much as in the higher wattage bulb.
February-12th-2003, 11:45 AM
#20
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Originally posted by 95ProtegeLX
People that have to resort to foul language to make a point in a discussion are usually losing the battle and their true ignorance is revealed!!!
I guess you never heard of I Love Lucy, Ricky Ricardo says "splain me...", oh, it's over your head... You must be fun at parties!!!
Go down to your local hardware store and look at the different brands of household bulbs... look at the package and read lumen output. A 60 watt bulb will have different lumen output (how much light) at the same wattage level. The same applies to all incandescent bulbs (halogens are incadescent too, just with a different inert gas).
People that have to resort to foul language to make a point in a discussion are usually losing the battle and their true ignorance is revealed!!!
I guess you never heard of I Love Lucy, Ricky Ricardo says "splain me...", oh, it's over your head... You must be fun at parties!!!
Go down to your local hardware store and look at the different brands of household bulbs... look at the package and read lumen output. A 60 watt bulb will have different lumen output (how much light) at the same wattage level. The same applies to all incandescent bulbs (halogens are incadescent too, just with a different inert gas).
Whatever.
Have fun with your "HID" bulbs.
~A
February-12th-2003, 11:57 AM
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good to see some people finally listening... any of you who still think I'm wrong, that's too bad... you're stupid... that's right STUPID... you see, I tried to rid your idiotic self of ignorance as a favor, but if you can't understand then you are hoplessly pathetic
February-12th-2003, 01:21 PM
#22
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Originally posted by TheMAN
you see, I tried to rid your idiotic self of ignorance as a favor, but if you can't understand then you are hoplessly pathetic
you see, I tried to rid your idiotic self of ignorance as a favor, but if you can't understand then you are hoplessly pathetic
Shall we talk spark plugs next? Or how about oil change intervals and weights? Or.......
Keep on spreading the truth - it's noble work no matter what abuse you may get.
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February-12th-2003, 07:05 PM
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good to see some people finally listening... any of you who still think I'm wrong, that's too bad... you're stupid... that's right STUPID... you see, I tried to rid your idiotic self of ignorance as a favor, but if you can't understand then you are hoplessly pathetic
Like a drop of sunshine!!!
I learn soo much here.
February-9th-2005, 12:08 AM
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sorry to dig up this old thread I stumbled upon. I thought it's an interesting topic how you compare one bulb's light output versus another. Everybody "knows" that the Silverstar bulbs are brighter, and the XtraVision bulbs give off 30% more light.
But according to Sylvania's own website, all their bulbs (Silverstar, Xtravision, Coolblue, standard) are rated about the same lumens. For example, the 9006 bulbs are all rated at 1000 +/- 15% lumens.
1st possibilitie pop to mind: the Standard bulbs are -15%, while the Silverstar bulbs are +15%. That would give it approximately the +30% brighter it claims.
2nd possibility: Sylvania just stated underated outputs to fool the government into making the Silverstar street legal.
3rd possibility: they are all bogus marketing strategies to make you pay $25 a Silverstar bulb, instead of the $7 for the standard ones which actually last longer too.
What do you think?
But according to Sylvania's own website, all their bulbs (Silverstar, Xtravision, Coolblue, standard) are rated about the same lumens. For example, the 9006 bulbs are all rated at 1000 +/- 15% lumens.
1st possibilitie pop to mind: the Standard bulbs are -15%, while the Silverstar bulbs are +15%. That would give it approximately the +30% brighter it claims.
2nd possibility: Sylvania just stated underated outputs to fool the government into making the Silverstar street legal.
3rd possibility: they are all bogus marketing strategies to make you pay $25 a Silverstar bulb, instead of the $7 for the standard ones which actually last longer too.
What do you think?
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