3rd Gen Protege/MazdaSpeed/P5/MP3 General/Maintenance Discussion for 1999-2003.5 Models Only (BJ Chassis)

What have you done to your 3rd Gen today?

Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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I would be very happy with a 14 psi Protege. Took bad that would require far too much effort and risk...
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Protege
I would be very happy with a 14 psi Protege. Took bad that would require far too much effort and risk...
Plus it's a lot of power to put down via two front wheels. Someday if I get the J&S safeguard and a fuel controller I'll do like.. 9psi*. I'd need a nice strong LSD before I went there though, hard enough to get the power to the ground right now.



*only if I have a second car or can easily take public transport to work.
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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cuz itll explode?
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Well thats why I ask you fellas questions. So I'll just stick with the stock settings and just get some bolt on stuff like FM intercoolers and such. That'll do. As soon as my 1987 Dodge Colt Vista (with 101K original miles) gets a tune up and a new tranny, I'll drive that full time and start making my MSP a little racer. My Dodge is below pictured all the way to the left.
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDirtyGoatee
Well thats why I ask you fellas questions. So I'll just stick with the stock settings and just get some bolt on stuff like FM intercoolers and such. That'll do. As soon as my 1987 Dodge Colt Vista (with 101K original miles) gets a tune up and a new tranny, I'll drive that full time and start making my MSP a little racer. My Dodge is below pictured all the way to the left.
Wait...so which one's the orange car?
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Ok, I have a question, turbo gurus.

Say you crank the boost on a stock MSP up to the point where it makes about the same power as an MSP at stock boost but with a nice FMIC and full exhaust, like Chris' setup. Since the mechanical stress on the parts is the same, why is the former case more prone to failure? Clearly there's more heat generated; is that what causes internals to fail?
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JoshP5
Ok, I have a question, turbo gurus.

Say you crank the boost on a stock MSP up to the point where it makes about the same power as an MSP at stock boost but with a nice FMIC and full exhaust, like Chris' setup. Since the mechanical stress on the parts is the same, why is the former case more prone to failure? Clearly there's more heat generated; is that what causes internals to fail?
torque is what causes internals to fail. While I am running at stock MSP boost (6.5-7psi) with mods (FMIC, FS-ZE intake cam, cold air intake, downpipe and full exhaust).. I'm probably at or near 200whp.

The problems come when you get to like 220-240 on the stock ECU and you don't have a wideband or any way of knowing what is going on with the engine.
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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I request graphs of said numbers.
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aMaff
I request graphs of said numbers.
I'm not going to dyno today it's snowing

you'll just have to wait until spring
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by _Kansei_
I'm not going to dyno today it's snowing

you'll just have to wait until spring
do y'all not have indoor dynos up north? 0.o
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by aMaff
do y'all not have indoor dynos up north? 0.o
yeah but they'd have to keep the big door to that part of the shop open and that would be mildly uncomfortable.

plus there would be crazy correction factor if it's like 20F
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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So basically, if I keep the stock boost setting at 7psi. I add a cold air intake, front mount IC, and a nice throaty exhaust, I should be ok? I was thinking of just fronting some decent cash and taking it to a shop who could add the parts AND tune the ECU or add whatever components needed.

Basically... I want another North Georgia MSP Meet. Anyone? Sometime soon? Any takers, any ideas? If you know of one or someone who knows someone who's killed someone, let me know.... I missed the last one on a count of I had to help my woman move her **** from one apt. to another.
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Define "North Georgia". We have weekly get togethers in / around Atlanta, along with the bigger, less frequent autocrosses, trips to Road Atlanta to watch races, mountain runs, etc. Unfortunately, most of 'us' aren't members of this forum. Check out the Georgia Forum on that other site. We've got a really good group out there
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Well tell you what, when is the next autocross? (I know they have them at Turner Field but I can't find the info on them) Anyhow, I can give you my number when something turns up. I live in Oakwood. It's 15 mins. north of the MoG. Let me know though. My car looks like **** because I can't wash it thanks to drought restrictions.
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDirtyGoatee
Well tell you what, when is the next autocross? (I know they have them at Turner Field but I can't find the info on them) Anyhow, I can give you my number when something turns up. I live in Oakwood. It's 15 mins. north of the MoG. Let me know though. My car looks like **** because I can't wash it thanks to drought restrictions.
Yeah, all of our cars look like **** because of that. The season just finished a couple weeks ago actually. Probably will pick back up early in March. Fortunately that should give me the time to finish the changes to the car (see the thread in the motorsports section )

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