Protege MP3-the MP3
Protege MP3-the MP3
Hello all. One of the local used car lots has a Laser Blue MP3. Its been sitting on his lot for many, many months. I think taht the MP3 player has been stolen. I have no idea how many miles it has or how it runs but I am interested in looking at it on Monday.
Question: If the MP3 player has been stolen, how much should that deduct from the value of the car (provided everything else checks out)?
Thanks
Question: If the MP3 player has been stolen, how much should that deduct from the value of the car (provided everything else checks out)?
Thanks
the head unit may only be worth 300 bux but when you take the car off the lot, especially one that has been there for a few months, you could probably get him to drop it 1000 bux just so he can get rid of inventory.
Remember when your buying a car don't tell him your best offer. Then you have nothing to bargain with. Whatever the sticker price is talk to the guy like its worth at best 2 grand less than the sticker than work your way up.
Remember when your buying a car don't tell him your best offer. Then you have nothing to bargain with. Whatever the sticker price is talk to the guy like its worth at best 2 grand less than the sticker than work your way up.
Originally posted by NegatiZE
$15,900 is a total ripoff if you consider the fact that the car sold new for $18,500. 10K sounds about right.
$15,900 is a total ripoff if you consider the fact that the car sold new for $18,500. 10K sounds about right.
Hell, last time I checked the TRADE-IN on my P5 it was $12k+, even with 27,000mi.
Originally posted by Dermen
If you pay KBB retail for a used car you are getting screwed.
If you pay KBB retail for a used car you are getting screwed.
To compare a similar value, I bought my 2000 Celica GT in June of 2000 at a sticker of $18,500. 1 year later, in june of 2001, I traded that car in for $13,500 (actually it may have been higher than that). I know the dealer sold it for AT LEAST $14k. Given the nearly exact same factory sticker, plus the fact the MP3 is a specialty ltd. model, the MP3 should have similar used resale value at 1 yr of age.
KBB Retail
Is supposed to reflect the average ASKING price for a used car by dealers, not what they actually sell for which is often thousands less. If the KBB retail is about $14,000 and this dealer is asking almost $16,000 he is $2000 over the average asking price. If the car has been sitting on the lot for half a year, he should be happy to take a loss on it to get rid of it, which would put the price somewhere below wholesale (whatever that is).
Re: KBB Retail
Originally posted by thel
Is supposed to reflect the average ASKING price for a used car by dealers, not what they actually sell for which is often thousands less. If the KBB retail is about $14,000 and this dealer is asking almost $16,000 he is $2000 over the average asking price. If the car has been sitting on the lot for half a year, he should be happy to take a loss on it to get rid of it, which would put the price somewhere below wholesale (whatever that is).
Is supposed to reflect the average ASKING price for a used car by dealers, not what they actually sell for which is often thousands less. If the KBB retail is about $14,000 and this dealer is asking almost $16,000 he is $2000 over the average asking price. If the car has been sitting on the lot for half a year, he should be happy to take a loss on it to get rid of it, which would put the price somewhere below wholesale (whatever that is).
the only book that really matters is NADA Black Book...the MP3 isnt even listed though,but a fully loaded 2001 ES only books at $9500 retail...wholesale is only like $8500..so actually the MP3 should only be $11,500 max....I DO THIS EVERY DAY,BOOKING OUT CARS IS A BIG PART OF REPOING THEM!! so blow me off if you want,but I guarantee you I'm right!
Originally posted by macdaddyslomo
the only book that really matters is NADA Black Book...the MP3 isnt even listed though,but a fully loaded 2001 ES only books at $9500 retail...wholesale is only like $8500..so actually the MP3 should only be $11,500 max
the only book that really matters is NADA Black Book...the MP3 isnt even listed though,but a fully loaded 2001 ES only books at $9500 retail...wholesale is only like $8500..so actually the MP3 should only be $11,500 max



