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December-23rd-2004, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
yeah, no ****! MPNick has yet to post it.
Step one: print the dyno sheet
Step two: scan the dyno sheet
Step three: upload said dyno sheet to website
Simple, effective, I use this technique a lot.
December-23rd-2004, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
protito, you need a clear cut and well thought-out plan before you decide on doing ANY of this. Protege's are NOT easy to build up NA and cost a FORTUNE. You're better bet would be a turbokit from someone. You'd spend $3600 on a turbo kit for 180whp or $5000 for an NA motor build with 130whp.
December-23rd-2004, 09:03 PM
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Thats a nice looking dyno but your power stock is just as much as my car with CAI and header. So.....something is not translating well.
The power levels I'm commenting about are from 2 seperate people I know doing NA builds. SpicyMcHaggis and TwillightProtege have been doing NA builds and neither one has made more than 145whp.
Both guys are running at least 10.4:1 CR's, both have ported intake manifolds and heads, one has custom ground cams designed for his heads flow characteristics etc etc...neither one makes over 145whp....this is with a LOT of money invested. I think Kyle (McHaggis) said he's got almost $5K in it.
The power levels I'm commenting about are from 2 seperate people I know doing NA builds. SpicyMcHaggis and TwillightProtege have been doing NA builds and neither one has made more than 145whp.
Both guys are running at least 10.4:1 CR's, both have ported intake manifolds and heads, one has custom ground cams designed for his heads flow characteristics etc etc...neither one makes over 145whp....this is with a LOT of money invested. I think Kyle (McHaggis) said he's got almost $5K in it.
December-23rd-2004, 09:42 PM
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What kind of car are they doing the build up on and what car do you have??? The 1.8l Protege engine comes from the factory with 103whp. As for your friends I would recomend they find someone better to install their upgrades. Paying $5k and not reaching 145whp their doing something wrong. I will talk to a friend of mine and see if he will post his umber for you all. He has a MP3 with N/A build up and i know he is pushing more than the weak numbers you post.
December-23rd-2004, 09:48 PM
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I'm sorry dude, but there are MANY NA protege owners who are not hitting above 145whp. I can't help that you think your simple bolt-ons are making you all-powerful. Protege's just do not take well to simple bolt-on's. This is a proven fact time and time again. If yours makes 145whp then you should be runnign very impressive times at the track. I'd love to get those numbers from you to compare them to other proteges making only 110whp. I bet the times are VERY similar.
December-24th-2004, 10:43 AM
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Most stock Pro graphs I've seen have been anywhere from 98-105fwhp. Mine came in at a lovely 102.1 or something like that. Basic bolt-ons in the neighborhood of $1k have netted me the same numbers as the graph above (roughly). However, I know of an MP3 that is "supposed" to have more power than my P5 and it isn't making it.
I swear it has to do with the day of the week the car was made or something
I swear it has to do with the day of the week the car was made or something
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