Robdoggz

i have a 2002 DX sedan how do i know if i have the halogen lights? I noticed when driving down a dark country road at night about 5 out of every 10 cars flashes their high beams at me always blinding me for a few seconds i always wondered? I never use my high beams so you think they just flash me thinking i have my high beams on and want me to turn them off?

walight01

if you have a protege, you have halogen lights, unless you did a custom job and put hid lights in, and that would be very obvious.

millionflame

Haha, that's funny you actually think you know more about this **** than me!

You ******* fucktard! (sorry The MAN! I couldn't resist!)

If you knew ANYTHING about DOT headlamps compared to a proper HID housing, or a ECE or J-Spec headlamp housing, you wouldn't be trying to act like you know something.

So, just shut the **** up and keep your god damn mouth shut because you dont know **** and you're making YOURSELF look ignorant.

You WILL blind people in a halogen designed DOT housing with an aftermarket HID kit in there. It's common sense. Oh sorry, you're not smart enough for even that.

You know how much research that I HAVE put into headlights and their design??? A LOT! More than you could think of.

And I'll run my "yap" as much as I want, and as long as there are MORONS out there like you.

******* loser.

~A

mypfizzle

i believe u win biggest ******* of the year award buddy -=).. do u have hids on your car? no.. do you know what your talking about? in theory maybe you do. Have you tried it? no.
With that stated. -=) ill put them on ill try it.. then ill let u know if your right or wrong. its funny tho.. ive seen all kinds of cars with hid conversions and they dont blind u if the headlights are aimed correctly.. could it be possible you didnt take into the fact that quite possibly u dont know everything? hmM... so when they get here ill put them on.. and ill let u kno..
by the way? who do you design headlights for since u know so much about them? i sure hope u didnt design the ones on my car.. but after all u do know everything. -=)
Hows it feel to be the smartest person on the board? how does it feel to be the headlight specialist? does mazda pay u to go over the design of their headlights and find what will and what will not work or do u just happen to do that in your free time?
And last time i check.. u drive a 92 mx3 and i drive a 02 protege 5.. so even if it didnt work on your car.. how can you be sure it wont work on mine? have u tried this on a p5.prolly not.. so again..-=) ill try it.. and let u kno.
thanks for bein so helpful.. im so glad everyone on here is so nice and friendly. -=)
- John

hihoslva

Please stop it. I'm not trying to fight here, but YOU are the ignorant one, only because you have no idea; 1) how HID systems work, and 2) Why the real systems cost thousands of dollars on new cars.

ANY HID system is REQUIRED to have a self-levelling feature. HIDs are EXTREMELY bright, and are a serious blinding hazard on the road. Therefore, ANY system on new cars has self-levelling apparteus, so that if the front of the car rises over a bump or whatever, the lights stay aimed at the road, and NOT at the oncoming traffic.

These systems are expensive to produce, and the technology involved is intricate. They are also required to have a "fail-safe" mode, so that if the self-levelling feature fails for whatever reason, the lights will drop down somewhat, NOT blind other drivers, and you will know to get it fixed.

There is no such thing as "aiming your HID headlights properly". If you knew what you were talking about, you'd realize how ignorant such a statement is.

NO $400-$500 HID system is legal. Furthermore, the reflectors in the headlamps are NOT designed to properly aim HIDs, only halogens. The guy you saw with the "HID upgrade" is not only running an illegal light setup, he is goddamn rude and dangerous to everyone else on the road.

So please stop arguing that which you don't know. Do a little research, and you'll find what HIDs are REALLY all about. With the BEST headlights on the market, WTF is the need for HIDs on a P5 anyway? Any "increase" in visibility is all in your head - it's not true. And all you will do is make your car illegal and dangerous, for the sake of looking "cool".

~HH

millionflame

Exactly.

~A

millionflame

Wow, I can't belive how ignorant people are. There are more than I thought in this world. That was one SAAAAAAD post dude. How do you put up with this crap every day?!?

~A

leungwingkei

Many of you claim that HIDs retrofits will never work on a car designed with a stock halogen housing but on some cars the retrofit have been very successful. I think the ITR is one of them. It has a halogen projection headlight system. But enough of that.

I thought of getting HIDs a year ago. And was very close to buying a set, but the following stopped me. First, the. Second, the DRL used the low beams, so if they were fitted with HIDs, the HIDs will be illuminated all the time even in broad daylight, unless the DRLs are disabled or rerouted to the fog or the high beams. Lastly, cars that come with HID from the factory have an auto shutdown feature when the car crashes into something. It disables the system, so that the ballast in which there is a risk of high voltage is disengaged so that rescue workers will not be electrocuted.

Another point is that when you retrofit HIDs on a non factory HID car, you run the risk that if you do blind or don't blind the person, and collide into his/her vehicle or he to yours, and the guy/girl claims that it was your headlights being too bright or something along those line, then there will be complications.

No need for all the swearing, there are every type on people on this forum and on other forums so just accept it.

walight01

took you long enough

misbehave

Same case over here.
My P5 headlight is total stock, yet I keep getting flash from on coming driver from the other direction of the road when I am driving on a dark highway after dark.

Another fun thing is that I have a laser blue P5. Somehow the reflection of the front fender below the headlights gives out a slightly bluish glare. Sometimes when my friends drive in front of me, they keep asking me if I have put some blue blubs in there or not.

misbehave

I suggest those of you who wanted to have HID on your P5 try to import the whole HID headlights (with the housing) directly from Japan from their HIDed version of P5 (called Astina Nu over there).
In my opinion, that's the only way you can get it done right.

leungwingkei

That wouldn't work, since the JDM HID unit has a left bias, putting more light on the left side which is their curbside then ours which have right bias which is our curbside. The left bias in the JDM unit will cause excessive glare to oncoming traffic.

millionflame

One reason why you guys' P5 lights are really bright, is because Mazda actually got their head out of their *** and desgined a headlight BETTER than DOT specs for once. My headlamps are horrible, but they're about 13 years old now. Technology has progressed drastically in automobile headlights (at least in Europe) and Mazda used a bit of that for their P5 headlights over here. A P5 headlight from Europe or Japan would still kick the DOT headlamps *** though!

Nice thing about Canada is that you're allowed to put ECE or J-Spec headlamps on your Canadian car if you can get them. In the USA you have to go through a crapload of paperwork and you might not even be allowed after that.

~A

UCSBgeek

Or you could just go ahead and put them on anyway... hehe

Considering the E-spec housings are really good, and don't blind people... what are the chances you would get pulled over for not having DOT spec headlights?

millionflame

Chances? Really good still. They're reflectors, so good look.

If you want HIDs and don't want glare then you HAVE to retrofit some Hella 90 HID projectors or Bi-xenon projectors.

Unless you got a BMW (and even then you aren't going to be 100%) reflector housing from the late 90s, or a unit made SPECIFICALLY for HIDs you're SOL.

Sure you could put them in, notice an increase of light, glare, unfocussed light pattern, and street signs glarring at you like lights because of the wrong colour, but it's not worth it.

~A