How much does the 3rd gen ES wiegh?
May-3rd-2002, 12:37 PM
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How much does the 3rd gen ES wiegh?
I've looked on a couple web sites and it say that the 3rd gen ES wieghs in at like 2550 lbs. On the sticker on my car it say GAWV is 3887lbs. What does GAWV stand for and is that how much my car weighs?
May-3rd-2002, 01:17 PM
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its either Gross Axel Weight of Vehicle or Gross AVERAGE Weight of Vehicle...
My memory escapes me at the moment....either way...what it REALLY means is its your Cars CURB weight (what the car actually weighs) and the PAYLOAD it can carry added together. All passenger weight and lougage.....
My memory escapes me at the moment....either way...what it REALLY means is its your Cars CURB weight (what the car actually weighs) and the PAYLOAD it can carry added together. All passenger weight and lougage.....
May-5th-2002, 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by ZoomZoomH
so GAWV - car weight = 3887 - 2550 = 1337 lb. payload weight.
quite a bit of weight our Protege can carry!
so GAWV - car weight = 3887 - 2550 = 1337 lb. payload weight.
quite a bit of weight our Protege can carry!
No wait a minute....if that REALLY was OneHawaiian in that ebay pic...and HE had four of HIS buddies in his with him....ahhhh I think that might be pushing it ! LOL j/k bro! :{D
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May-6th-2002, 10:55 PM
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The NHTSA specs our cars at 2,484lbs. I asked them why it was so much lower than Mazda's specs and they didn't really have a good reason. They said they weight it with a full tank of gas while Mazda may be including occupants in their weights. Anyway they think a Civic weighs more than the Protege (both coupe and sedan). So we are in the "Light" car class and the Civic (and just about everything else we compare our cars to) is in the "Compact" class. It really irks me because at the very least the Protege is bigger than the Civic on the inside (EPA passenger and cargo volumes). I've been looking at this because I think the government (or Mazda) is lying about something. I'll let everyone know what I find out.
May-7th-2002, 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by kc5zom
I've been looking at this because I think the government (or Mazda) is lying about something. I'll let everyone know what I find out.
I've been looking at this because I think the government (or Mazda) is lying about something. I'll let everyone know what I find out.
May-7th-2002, 07:19 PM
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I took a look at the NHTSA website. There is a picture of a 1999 Protege during impact for the crash test. I can't make out the trim level label on the fender. However, the tires appear to be of a larger profile, making me believe this is a DX or LX model. It appears the side moldings are painted, so I will conclude that this is an LX model.
The LX uses the smaller and lighter 1.6L engine, along with smaller brakes, smaller wheels, and less sound insulation. This could very well account for the difference in weight between Mazda's figure for the ES and the NHTSA's figure for their test vehicle.
-Jerry
The LX uses the smaller and lighter 1.6L engine, along with smaller brakes, smaller wheels, and less sound insulation. This could very well account for the difference in weight between Mazda's figure for the ES and the NHTSA's figure for their test vehicle.
-Jerry
May-7th-2002, 08:52 PM
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Actually it is a DX. It has black trim and mirrors (for 2002 test). But I don't see what you are seeing that makes you think it is a '99. I do know that they are using the same pic and car for both 2001 and 2002 tests. So it is the 1.6L in all likelihood. And they used a black car for their 1999-2000 tests (which weighed 2494lbs). The 10lbs there could be accounted for by differences from car to car. It just makes me wonder that the Civic is in a higher class than we are.
Sir Nuke, I know companies usually fudge their horsepower ratings (Mazda and Ford are both learning it is better to go low than high). But lying about weight to consumers doesn't make much sense (especially when they write that it is the curb weight). I can't see a 200 pound difference between the ES and the DX.
Sir Nuke, I know companies usually fudge their horsepower ratings (Mazda and Ford are both learning it is better to go low than high). But lying about weight to consumers doesn't make much sense (especially when they write that it is the curb weight). I can't see a 200 pound difference between the ES and the DX.
May-7th-2002, 11:26 PM
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Actually it is a DX. It has black trim and mirrors (for 2002 test). But I don't see what you are seeing that makes you think it is a '99. I do know that they are using the same pic and car for both 2001 and 2002 tests. So it is the 1.6L in all likelihood. And they used a black car for their 1999-2000 tests (which weighed 2494lbs). The 10lbs there could be accounted for by differences from car to car. It just makes me wonder that the Civic is in a higher class than we are.
Sir Nuke, I know companies usually fudge their horsepower ratings (Mazda and Ford are both learning it is better to go low than high). But lying about weight to consumers doesn't make much sense (especially when they write that it is the curb weight). I can't see a 200 pound difference between the ES and the DX.
Sir Nuke, I know companies usually fudge their horsepower ratings (Mazda and Ford are both learning it is better to go low than high). But lying about weight to consumers doesn't make much sense (especially when they write that it is the curb weight). I can't see a 200 pound difference between the ES and the DX.
200 pound difference between DX and ES? Are you referring to the 1999-2001 models? The ES has a larger engine, larger transmission, larger brakes, heavier seats, more sound insulation, heavier wheels, heavier tires, standard air conditioniong, cruise control, power windows/locks/mirrors, tachometer, etc. That's a lot of extra and heavier equipment that adds the weight pretty quickly.
-Jerry
May-7th-2002, 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by jstand6
Hmmm... I must have missed the 2002 test. I was looking at the 1999 test.
200 pound difference between DX and ES? Are you referring to the 1999-2001 models? The ES has a larger engine, larger transmission, larger brakes, heavier seats, more sound insulation, heavier wheels, heavier tires, standard air conditioniong, cruise control, power windows/locks/mirrors, tachometer, etc. That's a lot of extra and heavier equipment that adds the weight pretty quickly.
-Jerry
Hmmm... I must have missed the 2002 test. I was looking at the 1999 test.
200 pound difference between DX and ES? Are you referring to the 1999-2001 models? The ES has a larger engine, larger transmission, larger brakes, heavier seats, more sound insulation, heavier wheels, heavier tires, standard air conditioniong, cruise control, power windows/locks/mirrors, tachometer, etc. That's a lot of extra and heavier equipment that adds the weight pretty quickly.
-Jerry
