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September-24th-2002, 11:40 AM
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Another car with a manual tranny already in it. 
The swap is possible, but there are significant differences between M/T and A/T Proteges other than just the tranny. They include the entire electronic control system for the automatic trans, at least one (possibly more) of the motor mounts, the brake master cylinder (M/T cars have a connection to the clutch cylinder), the pedal assembly and possibly even the gauge cluster. The cost of buying all of the parts at a dealer will be outrageous, and will far exceed the trade-in value difference between an A/T and an M/T car (and possibly the trade-in difference between an A/T Protege and an S2000).
Obtaining used parts MIGHT work, but BJ-chassis Proteges are so new that you're going to have trouble finding suitable donor cars in the yards, and the prices will still be pretty high.
IMHO the only economical way to do this swap is to obtain an entire M/T donor car. My advice is to forget the idea right now.
The swap is possible, but there are significant differences between M/T and A/T Proteges other than just the tranny. They include the entire electronic control system for the automatic trans, at least one (possibly more) of the motor mounts, the brake master cylinder (M/T cars have a connection to the clutch cylinder), the pedal assembly and possibly even the gauge cluster. The cost of buying all of the parts at a dealer will be outrageous, and will far exceed the trade-in value difference between an A/T and an M/T car (and possibly the trade-in difference between an A/T Protege and an S2000).
Obtaining used parts MIGHT work, but BJ-chassis Proteges are so new that you're going to have trouble finding suitable donor cars in the yards, and the prices will still be pretty high.IMHO the only economical way to do this swap is to obtain an entire M/T donor car. My advice is to forget the idea right now.
September-24th-2002, 12:49 PM
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I agree. It would cost quite a bit to retro fit the car. You would also need a clutch pedal and all the linkages, new center console and who knows what else. Also think about the labour costs. I'm going to assume you are going to have a dealer or some other mechnic do the work. I would figure at least $1500-2000 in labour costs alone! Plus the fact that the auto option was $800, you would stand to loose quite a bit. I would take carguycw's suggestion and trade it in.
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September-25th-2002, 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by jiop18
My friend was interested in swapping from auto to standard and he asked the price.....the guy quoted him about 3000 bux cdn to swap everything...and prob not as good as the stock one either....
My friend was interested in swapping from auto to standard and he asked the price.....the guy quoted him about 3000 bux cdn to swap everything...and prob not as good as the stock one either....
September-25th-2002, 01:17 PM
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so i could just get all the parts i need from a wrecked protege (hoping it is pretty cheap) with the same motor and exchange the current parts with the parts from the wrecked protege and of course add the additional parts?
September-25th-2002, 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by blue LEDz
have any of you gone to wrecked car auctions? i found a '99 1.6L standard that was rolled twice that went for $600. granted, i'm looking for one that had the crap rearended out of it, but it would have worked. i'm saving up and trying to find a 1.8L. if i'm swapping trannys, why not the motor too? then i can build up the motor and still drive my car. then when i'm done building it up, i can drop it and the new tranny in the car. it won't be cheap, but i plan on doing most all the work myself. well, me, my friend, and his dad. we've swapped 4 cars to manual and vice versus. and converted 2 diesels to regular gas. and we're working on a 350 in an older volvo. but for anyone considering to swap trannies, find one at auction. there's a million small parts that you will need, and if you have a complete car, you will have all the parts.
have any of you gone to wrecked car auctions? i found a '99 1.6L standard that was rolled twice that went for $600. granted, i'm looking for one that had the crap rearended out of it, but it would have worked. i'm saving up and trying to find a 1.8L. if i'm swapping trannys, why not the motor too? then i can build up the motor and still drive my car. then when i'm done building it up, i can drop it and the new tranny in the car. it won't be cheap, but i plan on doing most all the work myself. well, me, my friend, and his dad. we've swapped 4 cars to manual and vice versus. and converted 2 diesels to regular gas. and we're working on a 350 in an older volvo. but for anyone considering to swap trannies, find one at auction. there's a million small parts that you will need, and if you have a complete car, you will have all the parts.
If you get a wreck at an auction, the parts maybe cheap but if you have to hire someone else to do it then it's going to cost ya.
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