Programable Computer Managment
March-3rd-2002, 12:00 PM
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March-4th-2002, 10:06 PM
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Hmm...If I am reading this dyno sheet correctly then this truck gained 25hp and raised the torque range. I am not familar with reading dyno's. Is that correct?
But I guess that any company will try and sell any ole P.O.S. to their consumers even if it means giving them false information. I guess I should have gone to business school or something and maybe I could be as smart as some of the "other" people on this board.
But I guess that any company will try and sell any ole P.O.S. to their consumers even if it means giving them false information. I guess I should have gone to business school or something and maybe I could be as smart as some of the "other" people on this board.
March-4th-2002, 10:19 PM
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I looked at that dyno again and I ask this, why is the HP and torque being compared to the MPH rather than rpm. I thought traditionally you compare HP and Torque with a given rpm. Whatever, I still stand by my previous post.
Dustin
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March-5th-2002, 04:51 PM
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Well here is the response I got from Hyperspeed...
Good point. Our $399.00 price was an introductory price to get our name out in the public a little. Those who were brave enough to try it are now smiling and reaping the benefits of noticeable performance gains for a vey little money. We are now in the process of giving our unit an electronics and appearance face lift and will re-stock it in a few months at an much higher price as reasonably anticipated by your reading public.
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Mike / Hyperspeed.com
Take it for what it's worth.
Good point. Our $399.00 price was an introductory price to get our name out in the public a little. Those who were brave enough to try it are now smiling and reaping the benefits of noticeable performance gains for a vey little money. We are now in the process of giving our unit an electronics and appearance face lift and will re-stock it in a few months at an much higher price as reasonably anticipated by your reading public.
Best Regards,
Mike / Hyperspeed.com
Take it for what it's worth.
March-7th-2002, 04:02 PM
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There are many similar products for much less. This particular product modifies the 02 sensor signal so that your ECU will adjust the A/F ratio. The same thing can be accomplished with a 50 cent resistor.
Similar products will spoof the Mass Air Flow sensor or Air Intake Temperature sensor. Again same results with a cheap resistor.
As many of us know, most of the 10hp difference between the MP3 and the other 3rd Gen 2.0L Proteges is accounted by the ECU. So this is a viable product. . . but it should be more in the $50-$75 dollar range. Keep in mind, this only affects A/F ratio to a given degree at that and will not modifiy the ignition timing. I won't go out and say "this product works, go buy it", but I will say "the principles behind the product have some merit."
For a $400+ spoof, I'd like an EGT sensor that sends a signal to a processor which looks at both the EGT reading and O2 sensor reading. The processor would then send a spoofed O2 sensor reading to the ECU so that the ECU can provide a stoicmetric A/F ratio. Scratch that. . . I wouldn't even pay $400 for that (although EGTs are pricey). A reprogrammed ECU would be a far better option.
Similar products will spoof the Mass Air Flow sensor or Air Intake Temperature sensor. Again same results with a cheap resistor.
As many of us know, most of the 10hp difference between the MP3 and the other 3rd Gen 2.0L Proteges is accounted by the ECU. So this is a viable product. . . but it should be more in the $50-$75 dollar range. Keep in mind, this only affects A/F ratio to a given degree at that and will not modifiy the ignition timing. I won't go out and say "this product works, go buy it", but I will say "the principles behind the product have some merit."
For a $400+ spoof, I'd like an EGT sensor that sends a signal to a processor which looks at both the EGT reading and O2 sensor reading. The processor would then send a spoofed O2 sensor reading to the ECU so that the ECU can provide a stoicmetric A/F ratio. Scratch that. . . I wouldn't even pay $400 for that (although EGTs are pricey). A reprogrammed ECU would be a far better option.
March-8th-2002, 07:09 PM
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C'mon, $75 Tornado in air hose gives 25 horsepower.....
For those looking for cheap air/fuel modifier look for Pivot Air flow conditioner-
http://www.optauto.com/webstore/prod...k=yes&dept=139
I hope this link will work. or go to optauto.com and in Engine-electronics menu you'll find it.$110
I would actually give this thing a shot, but cannot spend anything right now.
Alex
For those looking for cheap air/fuel modifier look for Pivot Air flow conditioner-
http://www.optauto.com/webstore/prod...k=yes&dept=139
I hope this link will work. or go to optauto.com and in Engine-electronics menu you'll find it.$110
I would actually give this thing a shot, but cannot spend anything right now.
Alex
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