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Old October-14th-2001, 05:26 PM
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P5 and 323F

Hi all..... i read somewhere frome the lower that P5 dynoed had 104 hp-s ... does it have a 2.0 l engine?

My european 323F has 1.8 engine and 115 hp-s and my 400m time with reaction ( dont know the time but it was really good ) is 17.06.

And one question is that what kind of cains in ET you will have from 1 hp ( or 10 ) , is there somekind of a connection that 10 hp is like 0.3 seconds or something?

Thanks in advance and sry for my not so good english
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not bad

17.06 is pretty good, actually. I'm not sure if you have any mods but, a stock 1.8L '00 with a skilled driver (i.e. magazine test driver) will run 16.8/16.9.

Yes, the P5 has a 2.0.
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Re: not bad

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17.06 is pretty good, actually. I'm not sure if you have any mods but, a stock 1.8L '00 with a skilled driver (i.e. magazine test driver) will run 16.8/16.9.

Yes, the P5 has a 2.0.
That stock 1.8 has how much power? i know these hp-s are different in protege and in 323
Is that 16.8 just an 400m time without reaction? ... then my time would me probably the same ... my mods are a KN drop in filter and a selfmade muffler ... dont think these give very much power but they'll give a nice sound to my car

And i think that i am not a bad driver (i know my car pretty much ... had raced about 6 or 7 acceleration races and then about 15 track races and then a few snow tracks and streetracing( on a parking place ) also ) ... i had streettyres under my car also.

But if P5 is 2.0 ... how many hp-s it have???
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Is there any way that I could see pics of your car????
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Old October-15th-2001, 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Makaveli
Is there any way that I could see pics of your car????
http://www.hot.ee/mazdaklubi/galerii...f/rain323b.jpg
http://www.hot.ee/mazdaklubi/galerii...f/rain323e.jpg
http://www.hot.ee/mazdaklubi/galerii...f/rain323f.jpg
http://www.hot.ee/mazdaklubi/galerii...f/rain323g.jpg

Here are a few pics .... i removed a mazda badge from the front grill but havent filled that hole properly.
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And also one question that why 2.0 P5 has only 100 hp-s?
Do you have different hp-s there
Here a new 323F sport has 2.0 engine and 130 hp-s...
what is a stock p5 acceleration 0-60 mph?
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Originally posted by JustMe
And also one question that why 2.0 P5 has only 100 hp-s?
Do you have different hp-s there
Here a new 323F sport has 2.0 engine and 130 hp-s...
what is a stock p5 acceleration 0-60 mph?

i think you are confusing the hp numbers. the 104hp listed was a dyno run and that measures the power at the wheels, which loosly translates to about 125-130hp at the crank.

the dyno numbers are much more accurate, as they measure at the last point of contact with the road, the wheels, so there's no dispute Crank hp numbers will be higher, since it has not passed through the transmission or drive train yet.
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what is the time on the P5's 0-60???
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i think you are confusing the hp numbers. the 104hp listed was a dyno run and that measures the power at the wheels, which loosly translates to about 125-130hp at the crank.
No way there is a transmission lost of 25-30 hp-s!!!!!

Maeby 10-15 but not that much ....

What are the P5-s 0-60 and 1/4 times?
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From what I've read on messageboards....

a P5 2.0L will run high 16s like 16.9/16.8. I guess the 0-60 would be in the neighborhood of 8.3 seconds but, this is just a guess. I don't have a P5 so, I can't test it myself. I suggest you go to the P5 section and ask them.
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Re: From what I've read on messageboards....

Originally posted by eeterp
a P5 2.0L will run high 16s like 16.9/16.8. I guess the 0-60 would be in the neighborhood of 8.3 seconds but, this is just a guess. I don't have a P5 so, I can't test it myself. I suggest you go to the P5 section and ask them.
If it runs high 16 or low 17 then its 0-60 mph is something like over 9 middle .... cause my 0-60 is 9.7 and i run 17.00

but like to be sure ... and doesnt P5 guys read this that i have to go there?
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yah i think the p5 0-60 is somewhere around 9.4 secs or something like that
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P5's 0-60 miles/hr is about 10 seconds....... why? because it's got the same engine as my protege LX 2.0 and is a bit heavier...... or even if it isn't, it's about 10 secs
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crank vs wheel hp on P5

I am surprised myself at low wheel hp figure. 120 hp Probes have same numbers, but I should have 10 crank hp more....
Probably second cat chokes it. Somebody posted on one of the forums about running rich at high rpm and gaining 7 hp by leaning out. I will definetely try APEXi AFC and adjustable fuel pressure regulator to try to tweak fuel curve while running on dyno-7 hp for about $500 is a deal if it's not a BS.
What Mazda was thinking about that when designing ECU?I also read that at high rpm timing is getting advanced to ridiculous values, could it be safeguard against detonation?
I hope somebody will come up with ECU to address those things-130 hp out of 2 liter in 2001 is NOTHING!
I don't know about performance data, but it seems slow. Faster than my mother's 105 hp 1999 Civic though , and it's rated at 9.5 seconds.
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Old October-27th-2001, 06:26 AM
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Exclamation Come on guys you know you loose 20 to 30% through drive train!!!!

Come on guys you know you loose 20 to 30% through drive train!!!!

THIS IS COMMON PERFORMANCE KNOWLEDGE!

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