Roddimus Prime

you're 100% correct! You'd also need 100% full fuel and timing control.

JoshP5

I'd like to see it done, but without controlling valve lift and timing as a function of engine speed, there's no way to get both a decent bottom end and 100hp/liter up top. Not with just AFR/ignition timing control.

Wow, this is OT...maybe we should start an FS-DE pipe dream thread?

Roddimus Prime

Well, it's not THAT far from believable...If a Sport20 makes 170bhp with a modified intake manifold and SLIGHTLY upgraded intake camshaft why wouldn't a completely upgraded top end package yield 30-50hp?

To make power you need 3 things....Insane breathing ability, fuel and spark. I'll give you all of those if you wanna come and stay with me for a week or two. (and pay for the parts). Labor is on me.

JoshP5

That may be entirely possible--I'm just saying it will come at the expense of bottom end.

One more thing you need for power--that's speed. Power is work per unit time, so the faster you spin the more power you'll make, as long as the other elements that you indicated can keep up.

Ken@ProtegeGarage

the FSZE has alot more than just cams and a manifold to make 40 more hp than a FSDE...

KrayzieFox

Where the hell did Ken come from anyway?! Welcome back man .. glad to see you're still alive.