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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Smile B&M Short Shifter

I just wanted to say thanks to Roddimus and every one els for that matter on all of the advice I have gottin from this forum. I just installed my short shifter and it kicks major ***!!
Thanks Abunch!
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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How is it ergonomically? I take it that the shift **** is still in a comfortable location? How does the height of the new short throw shifter compare with stock (almost the same)?
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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I'm not 100% sure, but I am 6ft 1in and I have sit with the seat all the way back.
The shifter I think does sit a little lower but not so low that you have to bend over to get to it. Plus I thought the stock shifter was to long to begin with. I also thought it felt spungy, not this one. The B&M is so percise that it really takes a few shifts to get use to it, I don't know how I would prove it, but I say it has shortend the through more than 50% if not about 70%. I am very happy, so far that is the best money spent yet! Really, when I bout the car that was the only grip I had! I totlly recomend it. I got it from proetegarage.com! They are slow to respond but good on prices, I would rate them at about a 9 of 10.

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instructions in the box were dead on! tock 30 min. to put in. I have been around cars for a long time but even if you never have touched a wrench befor it would take 1-2 hrs max.
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by juddz
How is it ergonomically? I take it that the shift **** is still in a comfortable location? How does the height of the new short throw shifter compare with stock (almost the same)?
It is lower but maybe and inch or two but nowhere near as short as the MP3 or Mazdaspeed shifters. I think its in a great place (I'm 6 2) But i also have aftermarket seats which mount aprox. 2 inches lower then the stockers.
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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I have a nother question. These kart boy bushings, are they the round looking spacers that go in the bottom of the shifter? I have noticed that it is a little hard to shift and that maybe I tightend the bult to tight down on the bottom! Any thoughts?
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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No, the kartboy bushings go on the tranny end of the shift linkage...and I highly recommend them as well.

I have them and the B&M....they are a great combo.

the B&M actually shortens the throw about 35%.....and the height of the shifter is shortened 1 3/4 inchs.

here are pics before and after my install
Attached Thumbnails B&M Short Shifter-before.jpg   B&M Short Shifter-after.jpg  
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Where did you get the bushings
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hughes412
Where did you get the bushings
From Kartboy.com
here is a link to the page
http://www.allwheelengineering.com/b..._class=KB-M001
Old Sep 24, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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Ok, So now I know where they go. But I don't think that the bushings will help with the hard shifting! Is there a torq setting for the bolt on the shifter? I think I might have over done it!
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Originally Posted by hughes412
Ok, So now I know where they go. But I don't think that the bushings will help with the hard shifting! Is there a torq setting for the bolt on the shifter? I think I might have over done it!
I don't KNOW of a specific torque setting for that bolt. however if you did overtighten it, it would be putting a bind on the linkage.

on mine, the nut was a nylon inserted locknut, so once you got it snug...you didn't have to worry about it backing off.
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I might try and see if i can find one, Thanks for the info!
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