dual exhaust?
September-11th-2004, 07:18 PM
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dual exhaust?
This might be a silly question so go easy if I sound ignorant 
I see a lot of cars on the road today that have dual exhaust (that is, an outlet at each corner of the rear and not just a dual tip muffler). Even some 4-cyl cars have it (doesn't the 4-cyl Mazda6 have it?). I do know that some dual exhaust are not "true" dual exhaust and are just made for asthetics using y-pipes. Anyone ever see a P5 with dual exhaust? I was thinking about it, and if you could fabricate a notch on the left side of the bumper skirt like the one on the right where the tip sticks out, it might look pretty cool (that's given you could actually route a second pipe and muffler that way). Just a thought.
(hmmm I started writing this and left to pick up a 6-pack before the game, and I just thought... the only thing a dual exhaust might do is make me shell out more money for a second muffler)
I see a lot of cars on the road today that have dual exhaust (that is, an outlet at each corner of the rear and not just a dual tip muffler). Even some 4-cyl cars have it (doesn't the 4-cyl Mazda6 have it?). I do know that some dual exhaust are not "true" dual exhaust and are just made for asthetics using y-pipes. Anyone ever see a P5 with dual exhaust? I was thinking about it, and if you could fabricate a notch on the left side of the bumper skirt like the one on the right where the tip sticks out, it might look pretty cool (that's given you could actually route a second pipe and muffler that way). Just a thought.
(hmmm I started writing this and left to pick up a 6-pack before the game, and I just thought... the only thing a dual exhaust might do is make me shell out more money for a second muffler)
September-11th-2004, 07:33 PM
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notching the ream bumper so it lines up evenly is the LEAST of your worries when you try something like this.
YES it can be done. I would start with a Racing Mazda Header and remove the downpipe section from here you can run two smaller pipes side by side through the exsisting tunnel. once you get to the rear of the car you'll have a hard time making the exhaust sit high enough to keep from scraping or dragging since it'll have to go under the gas tank and spare tire holder.
Someone with a nice NA motor or supercharger may benefit from it. I'll look into it a little more but I'm not undertaing it as a new project!! hahaha
YES it can be done. I would start with a Racing Mazda Header and remove the downpipe section from here you can run two smaller pipes side by side through the exsisting tunnel. once you get to the rear of the car you'll have a hard time making the exhaust sit high enough to keep from scraping or dragging since it'll have to go under the gas tank and spare tire holder.
Someone with a nice NA motor or supercharger may benefit from it. I'll look into it a little more but I'm not undertaing it as a new project!! hahaha
September-11th-2004, 11:35 PM
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Yeah for our cars, and really for almost any cars, dual exhaust are purely for aesthetics. I mean, even 1000 hp Supras and Skylines usually have single, huge exhausts. I'm not a big fan of dual tips anyway. It's acceptable if they're true duals, but even my friend with a silverado feels my rath from time to time for having a y-pipe (even though it's straight and LOUD from there back)
September-12th-2004, 10:19 PM
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Yeah it could be done pretty easily with a y-pipe but finding a place to run it before it would split around the gas tank and spare tire would be a pain and considering our cars only displace 2L and aren't turbos is a huge waste. Even the SRT-4 with a turbo and duals performed better (although mildly) with a single pipe.
September-22nd-2004, 01:47 PM
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I got duals on my 2000 pro. and it looks hella sweet. pics are at
www.sounddomain.com/id/bassbomber2002
www.sounddomain.com/id/bassbomber2002
September-22nd-2004, 01:54 PM
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duals
The exhaust shop that did this should've lined them up more evenly. It looks out of place.
Also, whats the point of dual exhaust on a car with no performance modifications??
Also, whats the point of dual exhaust on a car with no performance modifications??
September-22nd-2004, 02:08 PM
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Yeah, and I never understood why people put the body parts (kits) on their car unpainted. It has to be removed to paint it, so why not paint it before you put it on the first time and save yourself the trouble. Duals definitely look cool on most any car, but don't mix well with a primer grey bumper. Interested to see it when painted, and hear what it sounds like.
September-23rd-2004, 09:30 AM
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well I have a few answers.
First about the performance parts or lack there of..... I have a 1.6 L and have been looking into buying things. but im a shower not a goer. I dont want to go fast because where i live cops have tried to shut down the entire street racing scene and theres no point to turboing my car when most other cars come out the factory alot faster than mine with a turbo in my opinion. Not to mention that theres only so many parts made for a 2000 1.6l and im not an engine guy. I can do body work and work stuff but i know hardly anything about engines. and I got a CIA. and a walmart sticker so u know im rockin close to 200 whp
Second about the exhaust straightness...... If you notice in that pic that u have up there my car is two shades. Factory blue and primered back bumper. that was about 5 months ago. There are much recent pics on there if you would have looked around alittle bit. My car is completely primered until we can finish the body work up on it such as shaving the antenna and molding my kit in. The exhaust wasn't done by a shop. Everything on my car has been a drive way job. no shops involved. We ran out of wire for welding so we couldn't cut the pipe down to size to fit it perfectly in there that night before so we ended up just takin pics like that to see the before and after. If you look further into the site you will get the pics of the entire car primered and the exhaust straight. Once again No muffler shop or any shop of any type has worked on my car except the inspection station which inspected my car.
Third about the primered bumper on my car. Im just 20 and in college. my parents pay for nothing and i live in a military driven town where all the soldiers are currently deployed. the job market is very undemanding because there is no soldiers around to buy things. I have had a job makin 6.25 for the last year and a half and built my car on this lame income. no help from parents to purchase anything. It took my about 8 months to save up to even buy my kit. I dont like lip kits or anything because i like being different. Now i have a job that pays 10 bux an hour (just got it last month) but im not allowed to work over 28 hrs because its a part time job state job. I lacked the funds for a paint job at the time i needed it. and now i've decided to screw a paint shop to do something so easy so its going to be done by me and friends. and they dont have to be removed. I've seen plenty of cars around this town that have been professionally sprayed and they all turn out to be lime green front bumper supports and frames while the rest of the frame is black or some color. The shops around here dont take them off they just spray the cars.
Most people spend thousands in their engine.... I'll spend thousands in my body and interior.
This is a Just For Show Pro
attached is a much recent pic. its still rather old because we've done other things to the car since then. I need to update the navigation on my home page to my site cause that pics on the page with the kit and stuff. and call me a ricer if u so wish but every mazda is a ricer to a 04 SVT cobra mustang.
First about the performance parts or lack there of..... I have a 1.6 L and have been looking into buying things. but im a shower not a goer. I dont want to go fast because where i live cops have tried to shut down the entire street racing scene and theres no point to turboing my car when most other cars come out the factory alot faster than mine with a turbo in my opinion. Not to mention that theres only so many parts made for a 2000 1.6l and im not an engine guy. I can do body work and work stuff but i know hardly anything about engines. and I got a CIA. and a walmart sticker so u know im rockin close to 200 whp
Second about the exhaust straightness...... If you notice in that pic that u have up there my car is two shades. Factory blue and primered back bumper. that was about 5 months ago. There are much recent pics on there if you would have looked around alittle bit. My car is completely primered until we can finish the body work up on it such as shaving the antenna and molding my kit in. The exhaust wasn't done by a shop. Everything on my car has been a drive way job. no shops involved. We ran out of wire for welding so we couldn't cut the pipe down to size to fit it perfectly in there that night before so we ended up just takin pics like that to see the before and after. If you look further into the site you will get the pics of the entire car primered and the exhaust straight. Once again No muffler shop or any shop of any type has worked on my car except the inspection station which inspected my car.
Third about the primered bumper on my car. Im just 20 and in college. my parents pay for nothing and i live in a military driven town where all the soldiers are currently deployed. the job market is very undemanding because there is no soldiers around to buy things. I have had a job makin 6.25 for the last year and a half and built my car on this lame income. no help from parents to purchase anything. It took my about 8 months to save up to even buy my kit. I dont like lip kits or anything because i like being different. Now i have a job that pays 10 bux an hour (just got it last month) but im not allowed to work over 28 hrs because its a part time job state job. I lacked the funds for a paint job at the time i needed it. and now i've decided to screw a paint shop to do something so easy so its going to be done by me and friends. and they dont have to be removed. I've seen plenty of cars around this town that have been professionally sprayed and they all turn out to be lime green front bumper supports and frames while the rest of the frame is black or some color. The shops around here dont take them off they just spray the cars.
Most people spend thousands in their engine.... I'll spend thousands in my body and interior.
This is a Just For Show Pro
attached is a much recent pic. its still rather old because we've done other things to the car since then. I need to update the navigation on my home page to my site cause that pics on the page with the kit and stuff. and call me a ricer if u so wish but every mazda is a ricer to a 04 SVT cobra mustang.
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September-23rd-2004, 09:57 AM
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Spray While On???
What kind of paint/body shops are these that just spray the entire car? If you're buying a new bumper that's already off the car, why wouldn't you want to spray it while it's off the car? That way, you get no drips, bubbles, etc, and you cover every corner, slot, groove.... If you're going to put "thousands" into your exterior and interior, then do it right. Take the parts off before you spray them! My original question was aimed to say, wait until you can afford to paint the bumper, get it painted, then put it on. It doesn't make your car look "cool" to have a primer gray bumper on it, so why drive around with it on? I guess I just don't understand some people...
September-23rd-2004, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassbomber2002
every mazda is a ricer to a 04 SVT cobra mustang.
p.s. It's only rice if you make it rice. My p5 is very simple and clean and every show/race I go to everyone (dosmestics mainly) compliments me on how nice it is. Rice is usually defined by someone who makes their car LOOK fast but isn't. That and putting unneccessary "bling" on their cars.......like dual exhaust on a 1.6L stock 4cyl.
not being mean, just pointing out what everyone here is trying to say.
September-23rd-2004, 10:14 AM
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u obviously haven't went to my site. if you would then u woulda seen that there is no way to get my kit off. short of breaking the kit. We have wanna be shops here that are making a living at ripping GI's off when they get back from deployment. and we completely primered my car. in the drive way with a 1hp compressor and a gravity fed sprayer. we have a detail brush for the inside of the tire wells as well as any mess ups we incure. And i have the paint sitting at home just waiting for all the edges to be smoothed out and the door handles to be smoothed. I didn't like the factory color of my car so y should i have sprayed it that color? and I got estimates to get my entire car sprayed jet black or blue with metal flakes in them and they quoted me 2800 for the entire car. mind u it took me 8 months to save up 800 bux! that would in essence mean i need to save up for over a year and a half to afford it. SCREW that. and its not just my bumper now. its the Entire car. the whole thing from the revamped front end to the duals stickin out the **** end. I cant put single exhaust on cause im not lookin like a freakin civic with dual cut-outs and mesh over one of the openings because they are too dependent on bolt up parts to try something custom. I dont have the patience to have an 800 dollar investment sitting in my cramped room waiting to be put on for over a year and a half. so we just went and bought a gallon of automotive paint, reducer, primer, and eventually the clear coat when we are ready to spray it. that has cost me 400 dollars. If that much. instead of 2800. I dont have some 15 bux an hour 40 hrs a week job. I dont make that kinda money. ill take my 400 bux over 2800 any day of the week. If you research how to paint... take an automotive painting class in college (in it now) and got friends that can get access to a painting booth (for free 
) buy some test sheets of metal and primer it and spray it you will get the hang of it. Thats all the professionals are. people that have done the same thing. They just want to make so much money off of you that its crazy so i say screw it. and when i go into a car show I can truely say that my car is Completely customized by us.
We have one shop around town here called Slow Joe's Customs. look them up on google and u'll find their site. look at their cars there and u will see what im talking about if u dont believe me that their show cars that win all the time are just sprayed straight through. they didn't remove any bumpers or anything. just sprayed it and moved on. Thats seems easy enough and we are spraying my interior as well. Heres a pic of the interior that is being worked on as we speak at my friends house. This is also the color the car is going to be.
) buy some test sheets of metal and primer it and spray it you will get the hang of it. Thats all the professionals are. people that have done the same thing. They just want to make so much money off of you that its crazy so i say screw it. and when i go into a car show I can truely say that my car is Completely customized by us. We have one shop around town here called Slow Joe's Customs. look them up on google and u'll find their site. look at their cars there and u will see what im talking about if u dont believe me that their show cars that win all the time are just sprayed straight through. they didn't remove any bumpers or anything. just sprayed it and moved on. Thats seems easy enough and we are spraying my interior as well. Heres a pic of the interior that is being worked on as we speak at my friends house. This is also the color the car is going to be.
