mesx7828

looking to Mod engine on a 99 pro LX. Cork Sport has a

J-SPEC 2.0 FS-ZE Piston set (1.8, 2.0)
&
J-SPEC 2.0 FS-ZE intake camshaft (1.8, 2.0)
&
J-SPEC 2.0 FS-ZE intake manifold (1.8, 2.0)

Three parts are located in the Department 99p-engine.

Will these parts work with the OEM regular engine(1.6L)? If yes, would I have to change my transmission/drivetrain to work with new parts?
Any pointer's would be good, Thanks!

TheMAN

no

carguycw

More detail since you seem to be a newbie... the first letter of the engine code is the Mazda engine family. The three families that have been used in the Protege are B, F and Z. Many parts will interchange within each family, but no parts will interchange between families. [There are some important design variations within families, but I'm only explaining the basics here.]

Your 1.6L engine is a ZM-DE, a Z-series. The 1.8L in the 99-00, the 2.0L in the 2001+, and the 170 hp FS-ZE in the JDM Familia Sport 20 are F-series. No internal parts from these engines will interchange with your 1.6L because the engines are from different families. *Some* accessory parts such as spark plugs, air intakes and oil filters are the same, but guts of the engines are totally different.

mesx7828

Thanks alot :-( , know any good places to shop for parts for the 1.6L engine?

redrims

NOPI. Go to 'performance store' and look under "E-cat" and go from there. Also you can check the "FAQs". "Biknman" and "GoldPro" are the only 2 ppl known to turbo there 1.6L You may be able to contact them for advise. There are a lot more stuff than you think you just may have to search a little.

Here are a few basic mods:
- APC makes headers
- Injen, AEM, HKS, and WEAPON-R all make intake systems
- MazdaSpeed, Bosal, Brospeed, and Borla makes exhaust systems. You can also get one custom made, which I think is better.
- Of course there's N20
- Jet makes a performance modular.
- Powerchip makes a chip for any car, 'supposively', you just have to tell them what mods you have of planning to get.

And they are a lot more you just gotta look. Also, almost anything can be custom made, just keep that in mind.

mesx7828

Redrim, thank you, you help me out alot.

redrims

No problem. So where's my tip?

NegatiZE

The F-series parts won't work on the 1.6 Z series engines. You can get hte ZL-VE 1.5 variable valve timing engine that Corksport sells. 130 HP, .1 liter less displacement than ours. Plus, it should be a direct swap. If you want to get this, let me know because I WANT TO SEE IT!

TheMAN

the engine fits in.... but getting it to run is another story... to get it working, you MUST have the jspec ECU and harness!!! there is no way around it! It is not as simple as the FP/FS-DE to FS-ZE swap because of that!

TheMAN

there's only 1 standalone that I have found that will be able to control a phase control type variable valve timing (Toyota VVTi, BMW VANOS, Mazda S-VT, Honda VTC) and it's from a company I haven't heard of before

I haven't done much research on it, so there actually maybe more out there

OTOH, swapping to the FS-ZE from a 1.6 won't be hard physically either... the will have to be swapped or rebuilt if you are going to swap the bell housing, other than the wiring harness and ECU, all it needs are new engine mounts... no need to mess with the subframe

carguycw

Edwin, as I pointed out to you earlier, the parts catalogs show that the Nos. 1, 2 and 3 mounts are the same- only the brackets on the engine itself are different. The No. 4 mount (the one on top of the tranny) is different if you use a G15 tranny from a 2.0L car, but it's also the same if you use an F25 tranny from a 99-00 ES or reuse the 1.6L tranny (which is a poor idea IMHO- it requires a bellhousing swap, and the 1.6L tranny's gearing is inferior).

Using a G15 tranny is a good idea because it's stronger than the F25, it just requires more parts to be swapped- I know you will need the axles and No. 4 engine mount; I haven't checked if the shifter linkage will work.

redrims

Ok, I'm not familiar with engine work or anything, so I was hoping one of y'all can help me. This is quoted from the FAQs.


"Any ZL (1.5l) botom end parts will work with the 1.6l (ZM-DE) engine.
The ZL-VE head (which has S-VT) is a direct swap to the ZM-DE engine. You will
need to figure out a way to control the hydraulic controller that varies the intake cam
timing. This system is similar to the one used in the 2001+ Miata BP-VE engines, so
talk to the Miata guys about it the S-VT on their cars to learn more.
Any ZL-DE top end parts will work with the ZM-DE engine."

So does this mean that all I need to do is get the head and swap it with mine? Because this sounds a little to simple, even to me.
Will I have to change the ECU? Standalone? I would love to try it, but I wanna understand it first.
Also, what other parts from this engine can increase my performance? Any light weight parts in the engine that I can swap?

TheMAN

in theory the headswap will work.... no one has tried it yet... so you'll have to see for yourself

yes, you will need a new ECU to control the S-VT

chris, I wrote this big *** thing about the engine mounts in another thread a week or two ago... check your email

redrims

hmmm...sounds interesting. I'll have to see what kind of budget I need for this.

Do you have any type of info at all about the one standalone that may work for this?

Thanks

TheMAN

maybe this?

http://www.fjoinc.com/automotive/341Bdetails.htm#341B

try looking for a standalone ECU that can handle Toyota's VVTi... as those are the most popular cam phasing type engines out there... anything that can handle it can handle S-VT as it is pretty much the same thing