Wtf?
#1
Wtf?
Ok I read up on Gro's wire kit and decided to make my own.
In doing so I cut the wire to the right size and was bolting it in all the right places.
Well I finally got to the tranny ground, or what I thought was the tranny ground and when I disconnected the wire from the tranny it rubbed against the bolt from the ground and I saw sparks!
What the heck is that?
What are there sparks coming from a ground wire that is connected to a bolt on my tranny?
I thought it probably best to not gound this wire as it looked like it had power being fed to it.
Any ideas on what it could be?
I cant seem to post a pic so if anyone wants to see what IM talking about email me, or if someone is nice enough they might post it for me.
Thanks!
Donnie
NotArrogant@yahoo.com
Its a bone stock 93 323 1.6L SOHC
In doing so I cut the wire to the right size and was bolting it in all the right places.
Well I finally got to the tranny ground, or what I thought was the tranny ground and when I disconnected the wire from the tranny it rubbed against the bolt from the ground and I saw sparks!
What the heck is that?
What are there sparks coming from a ground wire that is connected to a bolt on my tranny?
I thought it probably best to not gound this wire as it looked like it had power being fed to it.
Any ideas on what it could be?
I cant seem to post a pic so if anyone wants to see what IM talking about email me, or if someone is nice enough they might post it for me.
Thanks!
Donnie
NotArrogant@yahoo.com
Its a bone stock 93 323 1.6L SOHC
#2
ok I started by undoing the bolt pictured.
I did not disconnect the battery or anything. I have only added wires in places where I need them. So far I have changed out the engine block ground, and connected 2 grounds to the Intake Manifold. (2 for fun b/c I had extra wire and it had 2 bolts on the back)
I next then traced the negative battery cable from the terminal and saw that it looped around. It first goes to a mount on the firewall, then down into a wire casing where it looks like the wire for the tranny comes out and bolts to the tranny (the pic).
I unbolted the pictured hex nut. When I lifted it off of the tranny, I pulled it to the side safely away. I then began to make the ground wire to go directly from the bolt to the negative terminal. When I connected the orginal ground and the new wire I saw sparks. This concerned me.
Next I took of the new wire I installed and tried to put the old one back on. Every time the existing wire made contact, good sized sparks would show up. It wasnt like a residual charge either, I could sit there and it would spark everytime I connected it.
So I put it back on and left it alone. The engine idles fine. No strange noises, only a rattle on hard acceleration above 3k rpm. But I think that the rattling is the air box b/c 2 of the bolt holders are broken and it kinda moves a little.
Something odd I noticed, was that after it sparked, my radio time had to be set again. I have an alarm, and I noticed that if I disconnected the battery, the alarm would sound during reconnection. Happed when I put new terminals on the wires for the battery.
I looked and I have no major shorts any where that I can find. I have done alot of wiring on my car, but I always made sure I was well grounded. Everything that has power is well grounded, and not hot wires have been crossed.
hope this helps. Anyone know whats going on. If I need to I may make a short movie showing the sparks when its re-connected.
Lemme know!
Thanks for any help/info you guys have to offer.
I did not disconnect the battery or anything. I have only added wires in places where I need them. So far I have changed out the engine block ground, and connected 2 grounds to the Intake Manifold. (2 for fun b/c I had extra wire and it had 2 bolts on the back)
I next then traced the negative battery cable from the terminal and saw that it looped around. It first goes to a mount on the firewall, then down into a wire casing where it looks like the wire for the tranny comes out and bolts to the tranny (the pic).
I unbolted the pictured hex nut. When I lifted it off of the tranny, I pulled it to the side safely away. I then began to make the ground wire to go directly from the bolt to the negative terminal. When I connected the orginal ground and the new wire I saw sparks. This concerned me.
Next I took of the new wire I installed and tried to put the old one back on. Every time the existing wire made contact, good sized sparks would show up. It wasnt like a residual charge either, I could sit there and it would spark everytime I connected it.
So I put it back on and left it alone. The engine idles fine. No strange noises, only a rattle on hard acceleration above 3k rpm. But I think that the rattling is the air box b/c 2 of the bolt holders are broken and it kinda moves a little.
Something odd I noticed, was that after it sparked, my radio time had to be set again. I have an alarm, and I noticed that if I disconnected the battery, the alarm would sound during reconnection. Happed when I put new terminals on the wires for the battery.
I looked and I have no major shorts any where that I can find. I have done alot of wiring on my car, but I always made sure I was well grounded. Everything that has power is well grounded, and not hot wires have been crossed.
hope this helps. Anyone know whats going on. If I need to I may make a short movie showing the sparks when its re-connected.
Lemme know!
Thanks for any help/info you guys have to offer.
#3
anyone got any idea whats going on?
I am thinking of just grounding out the wire anyways and seeing what happens.
Anyone think this might hurt or dammage my car in any way?
Please help...
I am thinking of just grounding out the wire anyways and seeing what happens.
Anyone think this might hurt or dammage my car in any way?
Please help...
#4
he's closing the circut for the electrical system. i've noticed on several occasions if i disconnect my negative terminal then reconnect it, theres almost always some sparks flying. if he's running straight from the negative term he might be making a path of least resitence, since brand new wire would conduct a lot better then old corruding and crudey wire that the orginal ground was running on. hope you could understand would i wrote, i'm pretty tired.
#5
Ok cool. I thought it might have been residual charge and I guess thats what it is.
How big of a difference is this going to make?
I know it wont make me have any more hp, not like rice stickers will.
I will hook it up tonite and let you guys know.
Thanks!
~D
How big of a difference is this going to make?
I know it wont make me have any more hp, not like rice stickers will.
I will hook it up tonite and let you guys know.
Thanks!
~D