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Old June-27th-2003, 11:55 PM
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nitrous for a sohc?

i wanna cheat. i'm shopping for a lightweight header for the sohc 1.8 pro and its not real easy. i know thats the first step. a lightweight ceramic one is what im looking for. after thats installed, where should i go from there, and should i really go with nitrous? turbo will flatten my wallet and i dont really wanna go through a dohc swap.
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nitrous is going to run you anywhere in the neighborhood of $500 to $1500 bucks (i'm just taking the BIGGEST ****** guess of my lifetime). but as i understand, refilling bottles costs hundreds of dollars? plus since it is a gas, it's eventually going to run out anyhow. don't want to turbo? eh, i could understand that. i'd strongly advise the DOHC conversion as the power will ALWAYS be there until the motor dies, and if you shop smart, you can find your parts for under $1000 bucks. again, i'm an idiot, i'm not entitled to give technical advice, so don't listen to me
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Old June-28th-2003, 10:47 AM
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they dont make turbos for sohc engines, not sure bout the headers but check out the FA-Qs

i would also recomend the dohc swap, you CAN turbo that and be a real sleeper with it too
and yes the power would be there, i know you said you dont wanna do the swap but realistically theres very litte engine preformance mods for the sohc pro

cold air
exhast upgrade
headers???
advanced timing
RX7 MAF sensor

and a few other things, nothing really serious like turbos (wish there was tho)
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Originally posted by semtex
they dont make turbos for sohc engines
you can turbo any motor with enough money and time, i'm actually in the planning stages of a turbo for my SOHC, and I know a lot you guys are gonna give me grief for doing so, but I like a challenge and this is one!

i wanna cheat
why do so many people consider nitrous cheating??? i consider it a perfectly legal power adder. now when i get beat at the track and it's obvious the guy is spraying but he denies it, he doesn't get any respect from me or my club.

but as i understand, refilling bottles costs hundreds of dollars
i usually pay about $45 to get my 15lb bottle filled for my Z28, but I only spray at the track so I don't go through to much (in my opinion you should only spray at a track, street racing kills, no matter what the guy in the civic says)
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ok, proved wrong on the cost of the refill, but how much do the hoses and everything run you? i mean really. and i thought the RX-7 VAF was irrelevant for the sohc, as the air flow meter only increases the air flow above 6,000 rpms... right near the red line for the sohc... am i right (ignore me if i'm wrong)? personally, i do have a bp, but it's an automatic, so even flooring it, the engine doesn't seem to want to rev or stay constantly above 6,500 rpms... making the rx-7 vaf irrelevant in my tastes. who knows. i mean, what makes it impossible to turbo a sohc engine anyway?
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it is the manifold that is lacking to make the turbo system

i only said they dont make turbos for sohc becuse this guy said he dosnt wanna go thro a swap, so that means he dosent wanna load himself down with bills and such, and the custom turbo mainfold would not be cheap

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when you get your turbo up and running on your sohc i would like to see how you did it and what you paid in the end, looks like an very interesting project

and hey if you can get headers that work for your sohc maybe you can sell them to us p-clubers and you make a few bucks just an idea
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Originally posted by bob1014
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why do so many people consider nitrous cheating??? i consider it a perfectly legal power adder. B]
its illegal.

even so, i'd rather go through the trouble of just looking for a header so i can squirt some nitrous. i mean, how many other people out there do you think have turbos now? nowadays its almost as common as civics.

p.s, i spanked a 1st gen eclipse today.
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Huh?

nitrous is legal, turbos arnt comon at all, most people dont want to spend money for a real mod
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and how common do you think nitrous is? there are plenty of street driven vehicles that run nitrous induction, i wouldn't see why it would be illegal. there are alot of things to think about, i mean, while a turbo may be a 'common' mod, anybody can see why... even street driven, gas mileage isn't affected adversely as much as a supercharger, the boost in hp is there for the use for every time you take off or shift gears.
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Group Buy

Alot of people with the SOHC are lookin for headers, so why dont we find some1 thatll do a group buy... Thatd def. make me happy also...
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Originally posted by demoninvictus
and how common do you think nitrous is? there are plenty of street driven vehicles that run nitrous induction, i wouldn't see why it would be illegal. there are alot of things to think about, i mean, while a turbo may be a 'common' mod, anybody can see why... even street driven, gas mileage isn't affected adversely as much as a supercharger, the boost in hp is there for the use for every time you take off or shift gears.
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ok ok you got me. you DO have a point with the turbo. you actually have me thinkin now. but what i meant was nitrous isn't street legal. if you went for an emissions test up here in ct and they notice that little red button youre toast.
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Originally posted by Protoss


i am getting a custom turbo header made for a 2-4 of keith's and materials. i'll talk to the machine hop i used to work for.. give me about a week and i might get a group buy going... depends on his workload and interest.
if you were ever to do a group buy do you know around what it would cost for the header? how much do headers run for anyway?
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Originally posted by aZnRicer
but what i meant was nitrous isn't street legal.
and this is what i meant:

Originally posted by bob1014

(in my opinion you should only spray at a track, street racing kills)
GROUP BUY, Hell yeah!!!! That would save my dad hours of frustration, he thinks he could modify a stock manifold with a T3 flange (he's a welder and CNC man by trade).

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