1st Gen Protege/323/GLC General/Maintenance Discussion for 1990-1994 Models (BG Chassis) and 1981-1989 GLC/323 Models (BD and BF chassis)

Disk Brakes?....

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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Question Disk Brakes?....

Did any 1st gen Pros comw with front AND rear disks? If not is there any conversions like from an Escort or sumthin?
Old Mar 13, 2002 | 04:42 PM
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my 91 Pro has disk brakes all around...

for the conversion......I think it's covered in the FAQ so you might want to check that out

the link for the FAQ is at the top of the page.....
Old Mar 17, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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I believe the drum to disc conversion is not worthwhile. If I'm not mistaken, the DX's with the front disc rear drum setup actually braked better than the LX.
Old Mar 17, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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You can greatly improve the brakes on the DX by upgrading to slotted/crossdrilled rotors, performance pads, brake lines, and a good racing fluid. I've done these mods and have greatly improved not only feel, but have taken car of problems with fade etc...so that repeated stopping is no longer a problem. After all, 90% of all braking is done with the fronts. Better tires will also influence your stopping ability.
Old Mar 17, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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In my experience, the cross-drilled rotors do make a big difference. I think when it's time to replace the rotors again, a slotted rotor will be a better choice. I won't be sacrificing as much surface area as the cross drilling. I had many problems with the stock vented rotors warping mainly because they were easily over-worked (hardly 9 in in diameter!!). The crossdrilled rotors helped to eliminate the heat and gas build-up which is partially responsible for brake fade. Perhaps in your LX the cross drilling yeilded no results, but that may be due to the fact your brakes are 10.1 inches in diameter and can better dissipate heat. I recommend that anyone with a DX go cross-drilled or better yet slotted.
Old Mar 17, 2002 | 12:09 PM
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HAHA...You lost me Jesse...anytime you remove the contact area (each chamfered hole) between the pad and the rotor, you are reducing surface area. Explain how surface area is increased when you remove contact area?

Everything was done at the same time. I did just replace the calipers, pads and used ATE Blue Racing fluid last week when I did my 9 month brake job.
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX


Youre not increasing the pad to rotor contact area, you are increasing the physical surface area of the rotor, and hence, it will cool better. This is the reasoning behind cross-drilling rotors. The ideas behind slotting are just to let plasma-hot gases escape from under the pad. The thing about slotting is that is becoming more and more of an appearance mod. Look at an old racing slotted rotor. It simply has one slot, running across the rotor, just missing the inner portion of the circle.....a chord from geometry. Thats all you need

Increasing the area of pad contact to rotor will NOT increase stopping power. Kind of like wearing snow shoes....its a pressure per area thing, and adding area doesnt improve pressure, in fact the opposite is true.
A little off topic, but...

I've known of big K-# blazers that would just slide on top of mud right off the road and on to the side of the mountain. Then when those guys are stuck, these jeeps and trucks with skinny tires will be going up the mountain past them, or they'll stop to pull them back up on to the road.

heh

Just an example of what Jesse was talking about how larger area decreases pressure.
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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uhm... I was agreeing with and providing information to support what Jesse was saying.
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Mahahaha. Oh ****.
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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Oh. Yeah. Nice Avatar, Jesse.
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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Okay. I just saw that Wil changed his, too. I think you both need to kiss and makeup. :P
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Yeah. I saw you two both on AIM and wondered if you were talking there. heh
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