91 escort/ 92 protege
December-21st-2003, 04:35 PM
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91 escort/ 92 protege
i have a 92 protege dx and i found a 91 escort lx. my tranny is screwed in my protege and i was wonder ing if the 1.9 engine and the tranny out of the escort would work?
December-26th-2003, 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by elscotto80
No sir, the escort lx is a ford tranny, the protege is a mazda one. Wont work.
No sir, the escort lx is a ford tranny, the protege is a mazda one. Wont work.
January-8th-2004, 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by elscotto80
No sir, the escort lx is a ford tranny, the protege is a mazda one. Wont work.
No sir, the escort lx is a ford tranny, the protege is a mazda one. Wont work.
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January-9th-2004, 12:43 AM
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the 1.9L and the 1.8L share that same bolt pattern, so the trannies are interchangable. the 1.9 will fit in the protege engine bay,but most escort owners with the 1.9, swap in the BP (1.8L DOHC)
January-12th-2004, 10:09 AM
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the 91-96 Escort LX transmission (I think it's a G5M) will NOT bolt to the BP found in the 90-94 protege LX, or the 91-96 Escort GT (this is a G25M, i believe).
Since the 90-94 Protege DX Block is the same as the LX, the G5M from a 1.9L ford engine will not fit the DX either.
You can swap in the whole 1.9 and tranny, but you'll need to do some significant rewiring. the 1.9 is a distributorless system, so you'll need to change not only the engine harness with sensors, but pretty much all the wiring from the fender to under the dash. you'll also need to change to the escort LX spindles, since the protege spindles have a different spline count. And other stuff will need to be changed, maybe power steering pump/pulley/lines, ac pump/pulley/lines, and the exhaust will need a slight massage probably.
It would be a big project that would be a gigantic PITA.
The 1.9 isn't really that bad. If it's tuned right, the thing will fly. With all the modifications on the escort mentioned by RX7_2ner, either the guy needs to take it to a dyno and tune it right, or was lugging around a bunch of extra weight (aka massive amps/subs, rolling on heavy rims) or just couldn't drive the thing properly...
I have the 1.9 in my wagon, and it's a great engine for what it is, and how detuned ford's made it. I haven't taken it to the drag track, but it pretty much kicks *** at autocrosses and lapping days..
--sarge
Since the 90-94 Protege DX Block is the same as the LX, the G5M from a 1.9L ford engine will not fit the DX either.
You can swap in the whole 1.9 and tranny, but you'll need to do some significant rewiring. the 1.9 is a distributorless system, so you'll need to change not only the engine harness with sensors, but pretty much all the wiring from the fender to under the dash. you'll also need to change to the escort LX spindles, since the protege spindles have a different spline count. And other stuff will need to be changed, maybe power steering pump/pulley/lines, ac pump/pulley/lines, and the exhaust will need a slight massage probably.
It would be a big project that would be a gigantic PITA.
The 1.9 isn't really that bad. If it's tuned right, the thing will fly. With all the modifications on the escort mentioned by RX7_2ner, either the guy needs to take it to a dyno and tune it right, or was lugging around a bunch of extra weight (aka massive amps/subs, rolling on heavy rims) or just couldn't drive the thing properly...
I have the 1.9 in my wagon, and it's a great engine for what it is, and how detuned ford's made it. I haven't taken it to the drag track, but it pretty much kicks *** at autocrosses and lapping days..
--sarge
February-10th-2004, 01:02 AM
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Brock, what's your opinion on what SgtRauksauff said above. Instead of buying that 92 Protege with bad tranny, I bought a 91 Escort LX that I got for $200. The Protege was in bad shape and this Escort is in nice shape for repairing. I want to put my automatic tranny from the 94 Protege DX on this 91 Escort LX(similar to post starter but the other way around). What's the final word? Is it interchangeable and if it is, do I have to do all that work SgtRauksauff mentioned? I see you did some swap with an auto tranny. Thanks
February-10th-2004, 06:06 PM
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So let me get this straight. What I've heard so many times, as you have from what you said, this 91-96 Escort to 90-94 Protege interchangability being so easy and fit-for-fit is actually not so? Also, you're saying that you probably agree that the Escort 1.9 SOHC is not going to be a simple unplug here and re-plug over there connection on the tranny swap from Pro to Esc? If this is the case, I just bit off more than I can chew. I didn't want this to be another darned workload or error. This $200 buy may not be such a buy any more if I have to do something like look for a tranny in a junkyard and the whole story after it.
February-10th-2004, 09:59 PM
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I'm interested in just getting a second car so my wife and I don't have to keep wasting time taking each other everywhere. I would also prefer the DOHC but I already own a SOHC with its tranny. I am not about to go spend money on another engine when I have one already in the car and one outside. I need a second day to day car with the least expense possible. I need answers fast so tomorrow I can have this put in. I almost got that engine in a 92lx but the rest of the car wasn't worth putting the tranny in.
